I'll Say She Is!
Monday, 6 December 2004
Ebay, home of the world's shittiest customer service
Henry V

Yes, I love eBay. It's a great concept, allowing people to buy and sell trash and treasure on-line, all over the world. And, at pennies a listing for the majority of the auctions, they make a good deal of money, little bits here and there that really add up.

But, have you ever tried to reach their customer service? I have, and would love to share my tale of woe with you.

As most of you know, we moved a few months ago, so my bank account changed. This was the account that was hooked to my eBay sellers account. It ran low on funds, so, about the middle of last month, eBay couldn't get 20 bucks that I owed them. So they e-mailed me.

Problem # 1: it's impossible to discern a genuine mail from eBay. This is the fault of spammers. All spammers and con artsists should die a painful death.

At this point, eBay shut down my account, and I found this out when I tried to make a bid on something. Fair enough. They should have their money, I don't dispute that. I paid them via credit card, and expected that, since my balance was showing at zero, and since they were obviously all computerized, that my account would be reinstated automatically.

Problem # 2: eBay has a crappy computer system. What's up with that?

Next, after seeing that my account wasn't going to get reinstated, I look through their Help pages. I send an e-mail. I get a canned response telling me to pay my account. I DID THAT ALREADY! I send another e-mail. Nothing.

Problem # 3: It's bad when a computer based company does not answer e-mails you send them!

After days of waiting, Godfrey finds their phone # on-line, on a different (read: non eBay) web page, I might add.

Problem # 4: (and this is a big one) NO WAY TO PHYSICALLY CONTACT EbAY!!! NO mailing address, no phone number listed on their web site!!!!! How can they get away with doing business like this??? If any other company were to run their business like that, they'd be run out of town! Why, they'd be considered A BUNCH OF CON ARTISTS!

So I called the number. The first thing the eBay phone people do is ask you where you got the phone number! The first lady I talked to said to use the "Live Help" feature. Fair enough, I hadn't tried that before.

Problem # 5: Ebay's Live Help employees are about as friendly and helpful as a bunch of rabid wolverines with heat rash. The first one I talked to told me that I had e-mailed the account reactivation address on December 1, and it would be 48 hours until I heard them. She implied that every time I e-mailed them, it would be an additional 48 hours before I got a response. Since I was chatting with her on December 3, that does indeed make 48 hours since my last e-mail. I checked. I did the math. She abruptly ended our on-line chat session. Basically, she hung up on me. Yeah, great customer service. So I waited, and heard nothing. I decided to Live Chat again after three more days of waiting.

Problem # 6: In addition to being unfriendly and unhelpful, eBay's on-line help staff lies. "Kerry" told me that she (or he) had "No way to contact that department". "You can't e-mail them? You can't call them?" I replied. At this point, Kerry terminated our chat session. So, the first person could call up my e-mails, but "Kerry" couldn't even pick up the phone? LIES MAKE BABY JESUS CRY, KERRY!

So I called the 800 number again. This person actually had a conscious, I could tell, or maybe she could tell I was ready to crawl through the phone and hurt someone. At any rate, she had the decency to so at least sound apologetic. She said they couldn't do anything, it was up to the "accounting department". So I'm not really sure WHY they have a phone staff, if they can't ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING.

So there you have it. Ebay has the world's worst customer service, and all I can do about it is post this account of my horrible experiences with their employees, along with their phone #s:
(408) 558-7400
(408) 558-7401
1-800-322-9266 (This is the one I've been calling)
1-888-749-3229
1-408-376-6554 FAX

*See May 26 update below for a new number

Really, I don't know how the little guys of the Internet can tackle this monster. They are totally unaccountable!

UPDATE: Behold the power of the blog! My blog brings all the eBay customer service reps to the yard! Less than 24 hours after making this post, my good eBay name has been restored! Coincidence? I think not! Well, if we've learned anything from blogging, it's that people read this crap! Even eBay!

UPDATE:5/26/06 Received an email from Tim with a new number for eBay. 800-717-EBAY (800-717-3229).

UPDATE: 6/29/06Thanks to comment spammers I must temporarilly disable comments on this post. If you have additional information about eBay you would like to add to this discussion, please send me an email. P.S. - comment spammers, I feel certain there's a special place waiting for you in Hell.


Posted by ginevra (link)
Comments
Thanks man. How did you get those #s? Those assholes sent me an email saying my order has been cancelled but I have still been charged for my order. There is no way to get a hold of them to talk about it. What a business!


I Googled for that info. I'm serious, the first thing the operators do is ask where you got their phone number! Good luck to you getting that sorted out with them.
CLAP CLAP CLAP!!!!!!!! GOOD FOR YOU!Ginevra I Dont Know that I love Ebay but have always liked it. EXCEPT For This Problem. You have done a very good deed by posting this info for the rest of us poor schmucks who have to deal with the lousy customer service at ebay. Thanks! & Heres A bunch of Roses for your effort. @->- @->- @->- @->- @->- @->- :-) Maybe your blog will kick start their arses into improving Customer Service. Hey one can always hope!
Thanks for the numbers! They give NOTHING but Canned answers. I complained about not getting contact numbers to resolve complaints (5 different times) and they reply to please get and call contact numbers Before you file a complaint. Guess they never taught them to READ THEIR MAIL!!
Another suggestion for you guys to try - if possible, set up a new account on eBay, (if your account is suspended you may or may not be able to do this with your current accout), create an "about me" page and explain the situation. Bad PR on their own turf is something they aren't counting on! I did this in addition to the web page here and it may have had something to do with getting it resolved.
thanks for the #'s- i haven't tried to call yet (it's Sunday), but you'd best believe they will here from me asap! i don't know how they can get away with such poor customer service- has anyone contacted the BBB or Consumer Reports? maybe we all should..........
Before y'all do Anything Mentioned Below, if someone on the phone passes the buck on to some other Ebay employee then be sure to request the Extension to whatever Dept. or person they say is responsible.

LOL - I bet y'all haven't checked the WHOIS database. THey're registered through Network Solutions, and the addresses are made public (a mistake 'cuz they can make it all private for only nine bucks).

Be they fake or not, I have *no* idea, BUT - every corporation has to have a board of directors and you have the right to speak to them, or perhaps even sue for that right (I sure would -- but then I've got a family that includes two lawyers!)

ALSO - if these addresses are fake (and the phone number sure is!), then it is possible that they are violating the .COM registration requirements. I'll leave the further required research up to y'all..

~~~ I was once hired at a restaurant because
I admitted that I'm a little hell-raiser ~~~

In the true spirit of Hell-raising, y'all can war-dial all possible extensions, PARTICULARLY those ending in '10 or '00 or '50. And what the hell -- claim that [insert name of beligerant CS rep here] sent you there :) Oh, and you can always ask for the call to be Escalated. But first demand the name of every person you talk to and Keep A Record!

Registrant:
eBay, Inc. (21665000O)
2005 E. Hamilton Ave., Ste. 350
2125 Hamilton Ave
San Jose, CA 95125
US
Phone: 999 999 9999
Fax: 999 999 9999

Domain Name: EBAY.COM

Administrative Contact :
Payable, Accounts
(PFZHEBJLGI)
hostmaster@ebay.com
2145 E Hamilton
San Jose, CA 95125
US
Phone: 408 376 7400
//PHONE LEADS TO SOME POOR WOMAN'S CELL NUMBER

Technical Contact :
Master, Host
(WZCTOKYPUI)
hostmaster@ebay.com
2145 E Hamilton
San Jose, CA 95125
US
Phone: 408 376 7400
//PHONE LEADS TO SOME POOR WOMAN'S CELL NUMBER

Record expires on 03-Aug-2010
Record created on 04-Aug-1995
Database last updated on 06-Jul-2004

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

SJC-DNS1.EBAYDNS.COM 66.135.207.137
SJC-DNS2.EBAYDNS.COM 66.135.207.138
SMF-DNS1.EBAYDNS.COM 66.135.223.137
SMF-DNS2.EBAYDNS.COM 66.135.215.5

Thanks alot for the info! I don't know where ebay "gets off" making it impossible to talk to anyone. It is the most ridiculous way to run a business, and I, for one, am completly disgusted! Thanks again Ginevra! dakrs23
Well, done for spreading the word about Ebays pathetic customer DISservice. I too have found it almost impossible to contact Ebay when problems arise. They seem to have made it as difficult as possible to lodge a complaint via their website. You follow all the links and menus and all you get is canned responses.

In fact, to actually get an email to them you have to choose a link that doesn't seem to be correct. I am sure this is a deliberate ploy on behalf of Ebay to wash their hands of any problems.

Also, they allow crooked traders to continue trading. I saw one seller get suspended TWICE for Bid Shilling (bidding up his own auctions), which according to Ebay is enough to get him kicked off for good. But guess what, they reinstated him after his second suspension. Maybe the amount of money he was generating for Ebays greedy little mitts was too much to uphold morals and standards.

So yes, Ebay is a brilliant concept and a revolution in trading. However, as we all seem to agree, they have the shittiest customer service and attitude towards the people (us) who actually use it.

Spread the word and maybe they will get off their asses and try and help the public more than they do crooked sellers...............
Hi-- I gave the # you posted to a buddy of mine- he is having issues with eBay at the moment.. When he rang through, they asked him HOW HE GOT THIS NUMBER!!!

Keep dialing people, F THEM!
What are we complaining about?

It is MY OPINION and I'll bet most of you too, that ebay is just another crooked website specializing in the support of other crooked websites and sellers.

I ran a chain of stores for 40 of my 65 years and if I had ever treated my customers like ebay teats their users, I would have had my stores burned down. Anytime you contact that group of dorks you get the most elegant runaround you will ever experience.

My greatest hope is that some other group "like google" will begin an auction site and bury ebay.

Let's boycott them and support anyone else that is user responsive.
I haver definitely cut down on my ebay shopping, though partially because I need to save money...
YES BURY THE F##KERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have had it with Ebay and I am stunned by their lack of customer service or even common human decency.
Ebay needs to sink under all their F##KING ARROGANCE.
I have spent several thousands of dollars on Ebay in the last two months and I lost track and fell behind....but I had every intention of paying everyone I owed to bring myself current. So, I did and Ebay has yet to release my account!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am stunned I can't believe they can even survive as a business with such a cavalier and smug attitiude toward their customers! So many of you are so right no other regular business like GM, Kellogs, Christie's, etc. would survive without good customer service. But we do have the POWER....as someone said we built them and we can bring them down............SO LET'S DO IT!!!! Hail Erin Brockinvich (sp?) Hail Norma Ray........................WE CAN AND WE MUST BRING EBAY DOWN.........LET THE M##HER F##KERS BURN!!!!!!!!!! LOOK AROUND FIND A COMPETITOR AND BUILD THEM UP. EBAY IS EVIL AND MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!
I just received a notice of cancelling my auctions I dont undestand why. They didnt send me any messages NOTHING. I can even get in touch with them. They claim is section 9 nin there contract. I am billed to my credit card automaticaly. My credit card has been charged they have their money Now why didnt they plase a call or something to let me know whats going on. I will continue to call them and harass the hell out of them until they explain why are they so stupid.I am a small seller I dont have feedback like sears of about 1000 and some positives but then they have numorous complaint against sears and yet they still sell. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. they choosed to harass me and not sears or any other big company.
I thought I was the only one that had come to realize that ebay SUCKS!!!!!! Your right it's a great concept, but when you cannot get customer service when you need it and your account suffers because some greedy seller lies on you, what can you do? I will let everybody I know about my experience. And thanks for people like yourself that let us know.
I was suspended from EBay back in October 2004. I kept getting emails my account would be suspended. It already was! Then I got a phone call from EBay (surprisingly enough) in Dec 2004 asking questions, I got irrate and said dont bother me, you kicked me off back in October, the guy told me, sign up under a new email and user name. I did that and was doing great, 100% feedback, no complaints, on my way to a power seller selling only genuine items. Out of the blue suspended again yesterday 4/16/05 for being linked with my original site. I am anti-EBay, I sold 1000s on there and spent 1000s. I am telling everyone I know about this and have transferred everything to cheaper sites. EBay is the most fraudulent site out there. Its amazing how they let the Chinese sell outright counterfeits day after day but suspend honest people not trying to rook the public...my feedback speaks for itself. I am going to join every petition against EBay possible and will have my attorney take care of their final bill. WHo is going to pay me for items (FVF) the day before they suspended me, these people do not know why I was suspended, and idiotical EBay is running with the final value fees I wont get money for. Its not about the money but the principal, I have EBays #s and will be contacting them soon. THey can do what they wish to me, and I will certainly do what I can to destroy them online if Im not reinstated. I am not a crook!
EVERYONE WHO WANTS EBAY BROUGHT TO IT'S KNEES PLEASE EMAIL ME. I HAVE A PLAN THAT IF ONLY A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE HELP CAN BRING DOWN EBAY FOR AT LEAST ONE DAY. THIS DAY WILL BE MAY 1, THEIR BUSIEST TIME OF THE MONTH. I was an honest seller on ebay for about a year. All of the sudden I get a notice from ebay I am selling an item copyrighted by someone else (this is an original dvd mind you). So there is a form for reinstatement. The site said this would be resolved in 5-10 days. It has been over 2 weeks since I faxed them and noone on the damn phone can even tell me if they recieved it or not! We will bring them down please email me at
frozenchorizo@hotmail.com and on May 1st they will feel our wrath!
Ebay's customer service sucks...Once again I tryed to speak with these people, Who the fuck is Vero???I list a item with no identification of manufacturer and I'm not copying any of there graphics...They say I'm violating copy rights...Zippo sucks, I'm sure they would like to beleive that they are the only company that can produce lighters,WRONG...Fact is I'm cutting into there sales ever so slightly and they can't stand it...Fuck the corporate giants...If I buy a car I can't paint a graphics on it and sell it because of copy rights...And Ebay does not help they say that I should settle this with them...What kind of a scam fucking scam is this...Thanks for this site I feel better now...
I have been trying to get in contact with these ass holes for like a month. They suspended me from ebay and now they're bitching because I can't pay for any of the crap I won. They keep sending me unpaid item strike emails. I can't pay for my stuff if I can't get on to my account. I've gone thru all the "proper" channels trying to get some help and it has all been in vain. I haven't gotten a response for any of my complaints. Thanks for the numbers. I think I'll raise holy hell over the phone if they can't do their jobs over the net. :)
Ebay just ended 372 of my auctions ! I left a nasty feedback for someone that had 4 negs out of a 7 feedback total cause they didnt pay after 3 weeks and left me a nasty neg after i filed a NPB. I am disabled and have 3 kids to feed.I have been suspended and i cant feed my children.I feel suicidal , it was my only means of income.
EBAY sucks!!! They suspended my account a month ago...for an item that they told me (due to copyright infractions) that I couldn't sell. I took it off Ebay....3 weeks later they suspended me and I'm still suspended! I called them today...the first thing they asked was where I got the number. I then told them that I disputed the suspension via email (got a canned response of course), then faxed the requested information which in turn would reinstate my account in 10 business days....one month later I'm still suspended. So...I informed them today that if they didn't clear it up, they weren't getting fee's owed to them since my credit card had expired! They are a bunch of idiots...anybody up for starting a rival site? :-)
EBAY CHARGED MY FEES TWICE. STILL TRYING TO GET MY MONEY BACK.
Hi,

You think you got it bad, you want to be in the UK,its the largest con around, take your money, do nothing for it, and turn there back when anything goes wrong, yes and then make it impossible to talk to them, and just on the off chance if another auction company gets our money, they buy it, close it or run it the same, the quicker there made to take responsibilty the better.
I have been suspended from eBay as well. I was selling 25 items with a $5.00 reserve and a $20.00 buy it now. One bidder went through and bid $5.00 on every item, eliminating all my buy it now options. When I checked his feedback/completed listings I found out he was selling the same thing I was, so, in efeect he was trying to buy up all my stock for resale, or try to make me lose money so his items would sell for more $. So, I logged into my brothers account and bid my items up to the highest amount possible. My brother has been selling comic books on eBay for nearly 7 years now, he has bad knees and cannot work. eBay is his life and only form of income. I just started selling recently part time to get some money I could hide from the wife. My goal was to either make the seller who bid on my items pay the full amount, or to discourage him from bidding any further, as he could leave me negative feedback on every item he purchased in order to promote his own identical product. I had an idea that what I did was wrong, but not as serious as eBay took the situation. BOTH my account and my brothers account were suspended for "shill bidding". No warning, no chance to retract the bids, both accounts were suspeded. eBay will not reply to e-mails inquiring when the suspension will be lifted, if at all. My brother is super pissed off at me. I wrote eBay claiming FULL responsibilty for the indiscrection, and begged them to reinstate my brothers account, but we both have yet to hear from them. I would not have had the guts to even try this had I not been ripped off on eBay before. I purchased two seperate 8 track player/recorders from the 70's that did not function as was stated in the auction and looked like they had been pulled from the trash heap and eBay declined to take ANY action against the persons who sold them to me. When they allow transactions like this to take place, it kind of makes it feel like the wild west out there, like any action regardless of how crooked , has no consequence, well think again. I did not even know what "shill bidding" was, now my perfectly honest brother is left to pay for my stupid retallitory actions. What gets me is the fact that from my understanding, the more money you make them, the less likely they are to discipline you. For example, 3 years ago my brother turned in a KNOWN FORGER of sports memorabilia. This guy lives in a town about 20 miles south of us and went to school with my brother. He admitted to my brother that 99% of what he sells are fake autographs that he does himself with a 50 cent silver sharpie marker. Last year he had a football signed by the ENTIRE USC FOOTBALL TEAM. He never leaves Gainesville Georgia and USC only played one game on the entire east coast last year. (VS Virginia Tech) So, how the hell would he be able to get a ball signed by the ENTIRE TEAM? This dude is an admitted crook, drives around in a new BMW, pulls down about $80,000 a year and my brother secrectly turned him in. What did eBay do? absoloutely NOTHING. We just figured he generated so much capital for ebay in listing and final sale fees that they were willing to turn a blind eye to his illegal activities. In short ebay blows. Cambodia, China, Vietnam, Cuba and Ebay, - The last communist countries left in the world!!!!!
Me too! Suspended for who knows what? They say site interfernce which could be a number of things but what gets me is that when I appealed it they said it would remain suspended because it was a "repeat offense". That is just NOT TRUE. They would not tell me the exact thing i am accuse of. Could be for contacting a person after the auction is over. I asked if she was going to list any more things then bam got suspended. I know of 2 sisters who bid on each others stuff and got suspended for 3 days--- they are back in. Now how is that better than contacting someone after a auction ends? What is so wrong with asking if they are going to list any more stuff? Ebays sucks big time. Canned responses. They have no heart. No idea of the people they are hurting by doing what they do to their only incomes. We need another auction site to show them they can be taken down. The owner has billions and was at the top of the list of richest people under 40 years old. You think he cares about us little people? We need an alternative auction site.
Thay suspeded my 4 account and they are f.cking b.tches i think.No reply my mails.and no contact about this.There is no reason to suspend my account.Thay are only usin section 9 user agreement.İt is simple to cancell your account.And also they are sending mails to my accounts "this is a bad seller if you want you can request your money back" f.ck!!! f.ck!!! only f.cking ebay..
Hi
I was suspended from e-bay for shill bidding. I did not know what I did wrong. I did bid on something a friend put on and I got banned because of it. I really wanted the item. The banned me, and then put on the e-mail which they sent back to me that co-workers and freinds could not bid on each other stuff. The only was they could now about this if someone told they. Ebay will not even listen to what I have to say. In the defination of shill bidding it does not say co-workers and friends can not bid on each other stuff. It just makes me really made over the whole situation. It is not fair.
Sorry I should of corrected the first one before I sent it. Yes i agree the customer service needs to learn to how to be real "customer service" and listen to what the whole situation is.
So ebay suspended my account because some family member in the same house had his account suspended for some Vero thing. Me; no email or warning just suspension. Heck, I was inactive for a week and I need to buy things not to mention get my items I paid for.

Any body had their account reinstated? If so how long did it take? I'm wondering if I should just open a new one even though they say not to.
I hear and feel for all of you cause they don't even listen to us. Jerks. They make a killing of each thing, so what the heck. Should I start over? and just open a po box and new id?
We all must realize what Ebay and Paypal are all about. They are all about making money. They could careless about right or wrong. The people that makes them the most money is ALWAYS right, and those that don't are ALWAYS wrong. They advertise fraud protection, but there isn't any. How could they protect anyone without any sort of quality control? When you buy something off Ebay, cross your fingers and pray that you get what you paid for, or get anything at all for that matter. And when you use Paypal to "safely and quickly" pay for your stuff, good luck getting your money back from them after you hit the "Send" button. Customer service? Making money off their customers IS their ONLY service! Policies? If you didn't get what you paid for, the policies basically say sucks to be you! Yet, Ebay is still growing by leaps and bounds year over year. In the end, we only got ourselves to blame. We support them by using their services. We grow them into the beast they are by subverting to their haphazard rules. While the title of this blurp is "Ebay SUCKS!", it is really about me looking into the mirror, slapping myself into the realization that even though I know what I was getting into, I did it anyway. That one bad experience with Ebay and Paypal finally happened to me, but I wonder if I would ever use their service again!
Ebay's poor excuse for customer service's usual boilerplate reply is to read the user agreement. Well, I did. Then I got suspended. They asked for all my ID to be faxed to them. Then I faxed them all the info they wanted. Then they never replied. However, they did give me a reason for my suspension: "This is just a routine suspension for new users, particularly those selling high priced items or many items." I had listed TWO items, one an old phone and another a 12 year old Ford! Now can you tell me if that qualifies as high priced or many items? And, Ebay, can you show me WHERE THE HELL it states in the user agreement that you will be suspended if you DARE to sell an old car? Ebay is the single most significant justification for anti-monopoly laws. They have NON-EXISTENT customer service and they just apply whatever arbitrary regulations they feel like whenever they want, whether or not the client is informed of it. To say Ebay sucks is an understatement. EBAY SUCKS MORE THAN A WAREHOUSE FULL OF VACUUM CLEANERS!
There is an alternative with customer service! Try it free at www.ez2auction.com and it includes video of items so you know what you are getting !
Hmmmm...a spam-like comment that I will actually allow to stay because it's pertinent. What will happen next?
I too have had a couple of experiences with the idiots that claim to be Ebay's customer "service" so I suggest we quit talking and do something about it. My problem is I don't know where to start. Anybody got any idea's? I don't see any reason for Ebay to discontinue there practices as long as they don't have a reason to stop.
I think Yahoo has an auction service - I have not looked into the details yet.
How long does it take to get reinstated from a indefinite suspension. I was suspended on Thursday for shill bidding, I was not warned or even contacted. It happens that I was not shill bidding and I've appealed but there has been no response what so ever.

I just wondered is it months, weeks, days or years.

does anyone know of any other auction sites. With better customer service
overstock.com has good auctions and good customer service. Their fees are lower than ebay as well to list. Their address is auctions.overstock.com They're awesome!

As for yahoo's auctions, they're crap because listing is free and the site has a bunch of ads on it, so people click on the ads rather than the auctions,so you can't make any $$.

I got dumped from ebay as well, they said something about section 9. But my identity got stolen, so someone was buying and selling using my id. Ebay sent me a canned email, and even after I emailed back explaining the situation, they sent me the same damn canned email. I don't understand these assholes. I called the number above and they hung up the fuckin phone. I'm not going down without a serious fight!!
I am 61 years old and was suspended for 30 days for selling certain knives. I searched prior to listing and found hundred's of the same items so i listed and was suspended for listing them. I talked to them about this and was told it just got buy them so i was punished for their ignorance.
Thanks for posting your story. I figured I was not alone since I was getting such generic emails too. I too have been emailing like crazy and getting generic emails and have been having live chat hang up on me. I could not believe I had been hung up on by live chat. I was so stoked on this company, we have decided to take our money out of their stock as I do not think they are catching on to their lack of customer service!!
Alycia
i hate ebay i have been buying & selling for years i had never got a bad feedback they suspended for copyright i talked to a powerseller person since ebay never responsed to my emails they told me to open a new account which i did and i got suspended again for being linked to a past account. i told them to close my past account because i have moved but they keep sending me eamils stating the account has to remain open until the suspention is clear up. how can i clear it up i cant even talk to anyone. they have all my credit card info etc. & i want them to close it so no one has acess to that info. these are the customer serve #'s someone gave me 1-800-322-9266 & 1-888-749-3229
Are you listening, eBay???
Here is what you do to buy and sell online... Sellers, post on www.squeagle.com.. its that simple.. sellers start yout computers.. and buyers.. get ready.. here we come again!! Ebay will go down in smoke..as they should with thier shoddy customer service. If Meg was in the real world you would not giver her the time of day just look at her.. Harvard grad.. big deal!! Investors sell now becuase the day has come... party over!!
So any idea on how long the suspension is for shill bidding?
I have a feeling that suspension may be permanent.
I think when your account gets suspended and then you try to create a new account and then that also gets supsended it's because E-bay is tracking your IP address. And if you use the same home computer to set up your old and new account then they realize you're the same person. What you should do is go to http://www.v7soft.net/ and buy the software that hides/blocks your IP address. I think this might help. I am also having the same problems as all of you with my accounts always being closed for now reason. I had one with over 360 all positive feedbacks and they just closed it. OPened another one and within 1 hour that was closed.
eBay sucks. I'm out $1k and those dopes haven't even returned an email after the complaint I filed with "safeharbor". Safe my ass. I have a seller, in receipt of my bank check, who ripped off someone else's account and is stealing from God knows how many other people....pinned down in TN (I paid through the nose to track this criminal down on my own). I have all of his information that e-bay now has. Think they've done anything? Nope. Their lack of attention to fraud and theft on their website should be called precisely what it is....aiding and abetting criminal activities.
I was wondering if anyone knew how ebay linked accounts of suspended users to other accounts.
Do they scan the ip address? Or scan several things ( like postal address, name of registration?)
My mother was suspended because she was linked to my account ( which is suspended ) - I am thinking this is because she listed items from my house. Would this be the reason? I am not sure how their system works.
The other thing I wanted to say is that all these horror stories should be presented to some show like 'a current affair' or something. In which the EBAY can be exposed for what they are on TV.


I knew someone who was shill bidding on their items for 3 years. They were reported and suspended. 2 days later they were reinstated. Now they are selling fake items. Instead of writing Authentic Louis V in their title - they write AUTH LV . Can you believe it.

Anyway can someone please tell me how ebay link suspended accounts- thanks

You might find some of the answers to your questions on this forum page hosted by paypalsucks.com.
There cutomer service call center is in Draper Utah.
About 20 miles south of Salt Lake City. I have been there to make a complaint. From my experience talking to them in person, was just as bad as talking to them on the phone. The people I spoke to wouldn't intervene or contact a seller to resolve an issue. Instead, all they do is listen to your problem and do nothing except give you a tutorial of their web page in how to make a complaint in this little room, with a security guard stairing into the window. They don't seem to care what you have to say. They have this arrogant attitude that they are the 800 pound gorilla in the online auction world, we are eBay, and we can do what ever we want. The customer support representitives I met, seem to lack the ability to go beyond expectations in wanting to take action and resolve issues in a professional matter. They give you weak ass excuses what they can do legally by law, then kick you to the curb when they are done talking to you.


I got suspended for shill bidding....

ALl because I sold something to a friend, than about 1 month later used his computer... So they figured since we have the same IP it's shill bidding. I was bringing in $15,000US a month in revenue and they don't even care... I was 1 month away from being a gold powerseller. I wanna cry (not really) but like for something so silly I'm loosing more amonth than I made w/ my dayjob. It sucks I love / hate ebay. Damn them!
Ebay, A Greedy, Deceptive, Waste of time. I have bought on Ebay never sold. Have been with them for over 5 years. All positive feed back. Made them money. Now all I want to do is change my email address as I will be getting a new internet provider. Ok simple enough right? Not so fast! In my Ebay now. First screen enter new email twice. Ok, did that. At bottom enter numbers in box ok good enough. Click continue. Wam!!! Now they want to extort a credit card or debit card! From me just to change my email address! Try getting help from Live Help. Don't Waste you time! Emailing waste of time! Thank you to all who have posted. At least I learned early if they can not help me with such a simple email address change I won't be selling or opening a ebay store. If you do business with ebay do so at your own risk!!!!!!!!!
I have seen that they require a CC# for a Yahoo or gmail address, but that's outrageous that they would expect the same for a new ISP address. Paypal requires a CC# to "confirm" your shipping address - yeah, right, here ya go! Not.
A few months ago someone won three auctions all of which were paid with my bank account, thankfully the seller on the largest noticed the address did not match my ID/address and contacted me. I immediatedly contacted Ebay, the money for the one auction was returned to me within a week. Still have not heard anything on the other two, of coarse Ebay has received their money. At least I wasn't suspended but two weeks ago I contacted Ebay when someone was selling a $17,000 motorcycle under my ID; unbelievably I had 23 bids cancelled and I was suspended. I received one responce -use 'Live Chat'. I waited 45 and then 60 minutes with no responce, where the hell did they get the term 'Live Chat"????? And after numerous emails I still haven't got anthing in responce, What a fantastic customer service. It's a pity Ebay doesn't have any competition out there, their asses would be up the creek without a paddle.
Live Chat sucks, they hang up on customers all the time on that. I guess they think a :) makes it okay!
mY EXPERIENCE TONIGHT WAS THWITH 5 MINUTES TO GO WITH BIDDING FOR A MULTI THOUSAND DOLLAR ITEM BIDDING JUST STOPPED 5 MINUTES ESRLIER THAN IT SHOULD HAVE. I think it is tim the police were called in to inverstigate a huge fraud which i feel ebay is . there isso muchgoing on behind the scenes we could not possible imadgine i feel there all crooks and we should be very carefull dealing with them, there are no nos for discussion so itis not in that sense a really professional operation and should be closley examined by the polife forces in all the countries it does business in and should be closed down!!!!!!!
I hate Ebay's so called Safe harbour. I moved and I changed my billing address, I forgot to change my registration address and Ebay suspended my account
OH MY GOD! Now I cannot have ebay get back to me on how to fix this problem. Amazing how other auction houses have not been able to put ebay down.
I contacted the Better Business Bureau and the California State's Attorney's office


I too was suspended by EBAY for not offering a refund to 3 people. Problem is I NEVER RECIEVED ANY MONEY FROM THESE BUYERS! How can I refund something I did not get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For any who would like to take away from ebay's MONOPOLY, try buying and selling on different sites like www.ioffer.com. I have started selling things with them because of (surprise!!) a suspended account with ebay for no reason.
They have a bunch of assholes working at ebay.People should get together and sue them for various reasons.My account was suspended for no good reason.Their customer service SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!People make them money and they get treated like SHIT.Those mother%$#@s!!
ive now been waiting 12 weeks,3 faxes,dozens of emails,then when it was was my turn to have my case heard,for reinstatement,low and behold,they`d lost my documents,my god ebay is so sad,for multi million pound company their customer services leaves a little to be desired,and i told em that,
been reading all the posts on here,
think ebay thinks its a law upon it self,on day it will come tumbling down on them
come on richard branson,start an auction site,outdo ebay
I not only harassing ebay also I am harassing amazon.com both sites are full of shit I hate this sites never listen to me people never buy or sell anything for these two sites I was suspended for talking to supense member with is very untrue.I am planning to take payapl,amazon,ebay down to the ground where the belong I will keep you update on my process in the meantime I really though I was the only one going through this problem but I see I am not
also so one need to start a petition about paypal,amazon,and ebay this is very crazy
Got a email from Ebay stating someone had used my account to purchase merchandise. Problem can't email them to say I DON'T HAVE an Ebay account and after reading all the comments above I DON'T WANT ONE. I can't believe there is no way to contact these people. Customer service, next joke.
Terry - that sounds like an e-mail scam (fishing for account info).
I'll bet that ebay promptly takes much better care of its complaints located within a few hundred miles of all their physical offices throughout this country and also abroad, they make sure of it because if not many more people would be standing out front of the damn buildings to excercise their 5th ammendment rights and meeting the useless cs reps and upper management officials where the shit rolls down from face to face..ebay does not want this because im sure it would make local news..Ebay has a big problem they need to admit,they simply cant now nor never will be able to solve all the problems of their auction world, so in failing to do so, its metaphorically like the old saying of rather seeing 100 guilty men set free than one innocent wrongfully punished , exception for ebay its the complete opposite, it seems they would rather terminate 100 decent/innocent users not having the manpower to deal with arbitrate them all fairly than have one or two corrupt or dishonest sellers that may be useing or suspected of using their service inappropriately stay aboard if they can stop it, even if their wrongly accused ebay aint got the time..Now I know everyone has an excuse to justify their actions and ebay just dont want to hear it..basically many auctions by there nature are not fair persay...what you think your getting is not always what you get and why your paying what your paying isnt always the reason you think, the whole auction world is basically somewhat corrupted,but so is ebay them hypocrits !! because their customer serviec is not what i thought i would get !! auctions are no exceptions..Heres the reality..shill bidding cannot be stopped by any auction company especially an online one, and the smart guy/gal who does it the most will never be stopped..this is a fact..If the physical auction company's cant stop the corruption how the hell can an online company like ebay do it..So this is the only way out of it---if you feel strongly your wrongly kicked off,dont bother stressing yourself out to much, its not worth it, make a few attempts then say f... it.. one then has to simply start a new ebay account using any ip blocking software just to be safe,then new email address, and screen name of course when re-registering for ebay and have a new business checking account,and only operate it under that name through the website information forms...and if ever a transaction is on shakey ground handle all conversations on a telephone with the buyers or sellers and get permission to record for lets say quality assurance like all the damn assholes at any company do over the phone to cover their ass if they need it, "not quality assurance for you", trust me.. also keep meticulous records and notes, and it would not be a bad idea for someone to start a public name database of people who truly believe they have been unfairly wronged by ebay..It will help them address the issue when the shit hits the fan..
Auctions are never fair, never.. if not for the buyer, not fair for the seller.. Your either getting it for nothing in which the seller gets ripped off or is certainly not happy, because why bother waisting the time listing the damn item if it sells for nothing ? ok the exception would be charity or simply kindness without the concern for money but thats the exception not the rule...(time is money) or on the otherhand your paying the most your willing to pay and maybe got caught up in it a bit but your both happy in this instance because at least the buyer got something they wanted, both buyer gets something they want and seller makes out good..thats the way an auction is designed to be really but they never are..its not designed for people wanting things for nothing but rather people wanting specific things or anything and have money to buy them and are willing to pay at least a fair price or low wholesale but not legally steel the item....Ebay should also look at the feedback records of those who contest a suspension and take that into serious consideration as well but they dont them idiots, The average ticket amount of each item sold and the amount of feedback should be weighed against the complaint amount or amount associated with the possible suspension and/or removal of suspension... some may have 1000 fb selling wheatback pennies for 5-10 cents and another may have 50 selling average priced items of $500-$2000+ or way more..not to take anything away from smaller ticket sellers..but lets face it, thats where ebay makes more money percapita and this is who gets hurt the most if unfairly suspended.C'mon ebay lets get a little considerate and do something right,fair and reasonable for these other class of users..were not equally suspendable/disposable, start caring a bit would you...
GUESS EVERYONE LOOK REED THIS!!!!

Google Auctions to Rival eBay and Yahoo?

Google is reportedly sending 600 workers in engineering and support to a new location in the Phoenix area which is the center of a new Google complex in Arizona. The site has not been established yet, but Google announced their plans on Arizona expansion at an event hosted at the State Capitol yesterday.

BizJournals reports that unnamed sources say that Google is planning a mega auction center in the new Arizona location in a bid to launch Google Auctions, in direct competition with Yahoo, MSN, and of course, eBay.

Aaron Wall of the SEOBook wonders how such an auction service from Google would effect its advertising model, Google AdWords, which includes mega advertising campaigns from eBay and eBay resellers. Will those sellers be advertising on AdWords in the future for Google Auctions listings and reimbursing Google a higher percentage of the item sale instead of paying the Google AdWords pay-per-click price?
link to article

I hope this is true. If not an auction site maybe an alternative to paypal.


IF THIS DOES HAPPEN EVERYONE SUPPORT GOOGLE AUCTIONS TO TAKE EBAY AND PAYPAL DOWN TO THE GROUND LIKE THE SCAM ARTIST THEY ARE.
Hi I am from Hong Kong. I would like to know if anyone eBay accoount can re-open after eBay suspension ,. thanks .
Hi. Just got suspended by ebay Australia. Linked to a suspended account. No idea what they are talking about. Member since 99 and over 300 feedback. Same probs as all of you good folks. No replies to emails. No nothing. Now the challenge arises to set up another account to win over the bastards. I reckon this is the only way to beat them. Open another account. Tried to log into ebay forums to whinge but no go. Am just trialling software hiding ip address. Will cover all my tracks. Have had probs before with cancelling auctions etc. Proven guilty with no hope of proven innocence. Wonder what the legal implications are? Oh well, might have to try and derive an income from something more honest like erotic massages.
Guess What motherfuckers? This problem will continue until a competitor site comes up. Ebay has so many users they decided to say fuck technical support (even though they make billions per year and could afford a 500 staff tech support department). If some noble webdesigner built an ebay replica, I'd guarantee ebay would change their ways to pleasing people. There are too many scammers and con artits out there right now that ebay has given up on tech support. You can still get paypal support, which is usually fairly good. However, if your a seller you better damn well make sure you ALWAYS buy a tracking number with the package you send, otherwise ur shit up creek. Only way to resolve issues with ebay is to go to their live support feature, tell them you are video taping the conversation for lawsuit purposes (if given your case could win), and tell them you demand to have the situation fixed immediately and you want to talk to the tech support's supervisor (cause if they don't get their supervisor you can automatically win a lawsuit case for improper business procedures). Also, file a complaint with the better business bureau for the state of california and other fraud agencies. Ebay allready has thousands of complaints for fraud activities with the state of california. If they get tons of complaints the state will come in deal with the problem (file charges against ebay). Also, ebay's seller/final values fees have gotten so damn high, ebay users have found out to sell their auction for 1.00 and have shipping & handling be like 25.00 (covers the value of the item and shipping costs) where ebay doesn't get any money from the auction (usually .35 cents or so for selling an item at 1.00). HAHAHA! FUCK EBAY! they want to raise their ridiculous rates so high they are hurting themselves by people not selling shit and people cheating the system selling items for 1.00 with shipping at 25.00. It's their own fault. I'd suggest every ebay seller that reads this do the same.
SO glad to run across this site! I WILL share it.
I was suspended from ebay about 6 years ago, and I do NOT know why. Upon trying to contact them through email (couldn't find a phone number!)I was ignored. I had 100% positive feedback!
I'm aware of others (besides those of you here) who've had horror ebay stories as well. It seems ebay governs itself like a small country, making and breaking their own rules at will, and making up others as they go along.
We NEED competition. I know of one auction site trying to get off the ground... onlineauction.com . They charge sellers a one time low monthly fee no matter how many items you list or how much it is!
If Google is truly going to start up an auction site, I'll surely go there as well.
ebay should be reported. Problem is, they have so many shareholders, the media is probably afraid of reporting what's actually happening. (I wonder also, with the money ebay has...who have they paid to have in their pocket?)
Has anyone here got a newscaster buddy who'll listen to them? Go for it! Bring ebay down to size!
After ebay I've got another pet peeve...Yahoo. Try to locate an email address or phone number to their customer service....I can't!
In my continuous search for contact info, I thought you'd be interested in one I just found providing a large volume of information about eBay! The auctionguild. It's at
http://www.auctionguild.com/generic17.html , VERY informative site!!!
I was suspended and it was Ebay's fault. I decided to go thru Ebay to get wholesale products. They email me a list of people that sold wholesale thru ebay. I bought some LV shoes that I thought was real, because 1.) they had a feedback of over a 1000 and 2.) they were a powerseller and 3.) they said they were authentic. They said they have all the papers, date codes and all that stuff proves that they are real. Their feedback was good and everything .. So about a week later, my account was suspended and so was that wholesalers account. This was after I sent them over $2000.00. I never got my money back. I emailed Ebay over and over to explain it, but i kept getting this same auto email that my account is "suspended indefinitely" .. thats not fair! I hate them. They make me sick.
EBAY's Directory and Contact Information as of 1 Jan 05


PLEASE use discretion and common sense when deciding which method to contact ebaY. Use the least agrressive first ebaY's contact form or Safe Harbor and then escalate to suit the situation. Misuse will only cause ebaY to change their phone numbers.



2005 Hamilton Ave.San Jose, CA 95125 NOT Confirmed
2125 Hamilton Avenue San Jose CA 95125 NOT Confirmed

2145 Hamilton Ave # 350 San Jose, CA 95125 Confirmed
Hours: 7:30am to 5:30pm PT (California USA Time)
1-408-376-6554 Fax Main - Confirmed
1-408-558-7404 -Fax Customer Support NOT Confirmed

The Following Numbers have been checked and work -
1-800-322-9266
1-888-749-3229
1-877-438-3229 (California only - may no longer work)
1-408-558-7400
1-408-376-7400 A receptonist will answer
Hours 7:30 AM 5:30 PM PT M-F
Know Persons Extension press 1
Dial by name Directory press 0
Customer Service press 2
Operator press 3

Possible change in hours now 6 AM PT to 2 PM PT (not confirmed)

The Following Numbers have been checked and are invalid -
1-405-558-7400 Invalid number
1-408-369-4830 Invalid number
1-408-963-8577 Invalid number

VeRO Number 801-545-1724
VeRO Fax Number 408-516-8811
Address items -
ATTN: VeRO Program
2145 Hamilton Ave
San Jose, CA 95125
More VeRO info –
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/vero-aboutme.html

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TO PERMANENTLY CLOSE AN EBAY ACCOUNT
Step 1 - You will need to follow the info on this page -
CLOSE EBAY ACCOUNT
Step 2 - And send it via the contact form at - Support Form
Click on 'Registration and account information' click on "Account issues' click on 'How do I cancel my account' Ignore the info on this page and scroll to the bottom, on the lower right hand side, click on 'Contact ebaY' - Fill out the form and provide the information in Step 1and click 'send' . Make sure you keep a copy for your records with the date sent.

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OFFICERS Information Not All Verified or most current - see the insider info link for most current information -

Pierre M. Omidyar, Chairman
Phone number (voice mail) available on request to TAG subscribers
pierre@ebay.com

Margaret C.Whitman President./CEO,
Phone number available on request to TAG subscribers
meg@ebay.com

Jeffrey Skoll VP ownership
Left ebaY early 2001

Gary F. Bengier, VP/CFO,

Michael R. Jacobson, VP/Counsel/Secy

Brian T. Swette, Sr. - Former VP - took the money and left - still consulting?

Bill Cobb president ebaY North America

John Donahoe president of the business unit
(reports directly to Meg)

Matt Bannick president of international operations

Jeff Jordan in charge of PayPal

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Other ebaY phone numbers -

Safe Harbor -
safeharbor@ebay.com - ebaY shut down this address

1-408-558-5966
answered by receptionist
1-408-558-6107
answered by receptionist
We have heard that ebaY disconnected the above numbers

ebaYTrust and Safety Department
Janelle Moreno 408-376-5472

ebaY Insider Trading Information
Insider Trading Info

Spokepersons-
Hani Durzy, ebaY.com 408-558-7458

Kristin Keyes, Half.com, 610-680-4051

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EMAIL ADDRESSES - last known current email address - several have been disabled by ebaY

Community Service (Board Watchers)

ebaY Inc.
173 West Election Road
Draper, UT 84020

bburke@ebay.com Brian Burke Senior Manager, Marketplace Rules & Policy - Phone number available on request to TAG subscribers

claire@ebay.com
gianni@ebay.com
maeve@ebay.com
jerry@ebay.com
erin@ebay.com
paula@ebay.com
kelley@ebay.com

Other Misc email addys Personnel and positions (not necessarily current)
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ebaY Ambassador and official Sycophant
Jim Griffiths
griff@ebay.com (Dale/UncleGriff/AuntFlo)

Trust and Safety Rob Chesnut
robc@ebay.com

Intellectual Property Counsel -
JMonahan@ebay.com

Product Manager-
sylvester@ebay.com

Senior Business Manager for Mister Lister and Turbo Lister -
Tom Tsao ttsao@ebay.com

Jim Weber, VP of Global Customer Support

Bob Sangueldolce, VP of Customer Support Technology and Processes

ebaY Toolbar - Bobby at toolbarsupport@ebay.com

US Site problems- – Ken ewatch@ebay.com

For issues concerning My ebaY, dutch auctions etc ksween@ebay.com

Turbo Lister and SYI form - david.jesse@ebay.com

Brian Burke Senior Manager, Marketplace Rules & Policy
408-967-6451

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ebaY UK Phone Numbers and Addresses
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Ebay (UK) Limited,
50 Victoria Embankment,
London,
EC4Y ODX

For Billing:
eBay uk Ltd.,
Unit 6,
6 Dukes Gate,
Acton Lane,
London W4 5DX
Fax 0049 30801 96300
email -
ukreception@ebay.com

eBay uk Ltd
6 Dukes Gate
Acton Lane
London W4 5DX

Tel:
Tel: 020 8605 3000
Fax: 020 8605 3001
(updated 21 Jun 04)
These keep changing so may no longer be valid -

FAX - 0049 30801 96300
FAX - 0049 39801 96300

Other ebaY Europe info
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eBay International AG
Bubenbergplatz 5,
3001 Bern,
Switzerland.

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Half.Com
2145 Hamilton Ave
San Jose, CA 95125
1-800-545-9857
888-879-4253 ext 1
Open M-F 9am-7pm ET
Better Business Bureau Report link
http://209.128.79.238/search/report.asp
Rating - Unsatisfactory

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To ask ebaY a question or request customer support go to -
http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-support.html
ebaY Support Form
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ebaY Billing -
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetGSWebFormShow&subjecttier1=Billing

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TO FILE A FRAUD CLAIM on ebaY
Use the form on this page -
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/frs-claimform.html
PRINT OUT THIS FORM
Send the completed and signed Fraud Protection Claim Form with -
1. A copy of the end of auction notice or a copy of the auction page
2. Proof of payment, ie. a photocopy of the front and back of money order, cashiers check, personal check, copy of PayPal, PayDirect payment statement.
3. If you paid via credit card, also include the denial of reimbursement from your credit card company (you need to request this from them if they don't send it automatically)
4. Any other supporting documentation

All of this has to be mailed to:

Fraud Protection Program
Attn: Claims Administration Dept.
P.O. Box 188
Draper, Utah 84020

Fraud Dept Phone Number in Utah
801-545-2382
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To Ping ebaY to see if your connection across the nodes of the internet are clear use –
Thorny-devil.ebay.com
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ebaY Technology Structure (may not be current)

Maynard Webb to whom reports
Marty Abbott VP of Technology and Lynn Reedy VP of Product and Software Development and Architecture

Reporting to Marty Abbott VP of Technology :
* Jeff Drobick, senior director, IT, as acting head of IT
* Tom Keeven, VP, Operations, Infrastructure and Infrastructure Architecture.
* Glenn Beeswanger has accepted the position of VP, Site Operations, reporting to Tom
* David Pride, senior director, QA, as acting head of QA
* Sandy Cruze's Process Engineering team will have a dotted line relationship to the head of QA
* Marty will serve as acting VP, Chief Information Security Officer (CISO)

* Reporting to Lynn Reedy VP of Product and Software Development and Architecture:
* Woody Arnold, director, Product Metrics
* Sandy Cruze, director, Process Engineering
* David Cole, director, Acquisition Integration
* Andre Haddad, senior director, Strategic Product Management, as acting head of Design Labs
* Jeff Huber, VP, Architecture
* Shri Mahesh, senior director, Product Management, as acting head of Product Management
* Mireille Mallouh, senior manager, Global Product Planning
* Scott Murray, director, Project/Program Management

Also reporting to Lynn will be a VP, Software Development. Until that person is named, the following will also report to Lynn:

* Michael Gardner, director, Search, Listings, Catalog, Attributes, Selling Tools and Billing
* Mary Hoover, director, Build, SCM, Documentation and Training
* Jeremy King, senior director, Selling, Buying, User, Trust and Safety, CS, International, XSL, Web Development and Localization
* Scott Leahy, director, Platform
* Janet McDermid, senior manager, Scoping
* Brian Sweeney, director, International Liaison and Development Strategy
* Dave Swenson, director, V3 and Offshore Development
* Jack Xu, CTO, Eachnet


Yeah same thing happened to me. Suspended for shill bidding. Actually, I just list from a public computer in a company of over 1000. Come to find out after research, ALL IP ADDRESSES are the SAME at this company. I emailed them an "appeal" and stated my case, and have yet to hear anything back and it's been 6 days, not 24-48 hours. I was also a very reputable, but small time seller. 700+ and only 1 negative in 3 years. Paid my fees auto debit from my account EVERY month, no problems. This is a real nightmare. :( I'm a single mom and needed the money I make on there.
Please email me on how to set up a blog. Ebay has suspended me and I can not get them to respond. I think that there is no one there or they just dont care. If this blog got this much response then I need to get involved. Will you help? Desperatly Anoyed.
wow...i nearly,i say NEARLY got my suspended account back,after god knows how many emails faxed documents to prove who i was,my credit card is good enough for them to take sellers fees off and paypal fees ,yet when it comes to reinstatment of a suspended account they want ya life history,
i dont have passport/driving licience..so i mailed them and explained this,so they told me a full birth certificate would do as proof of my name,so i faxed them off.....3 weeks later some one called anna mailed me back stating the birth certificte wasnt acceptable,when reading this i kinda got really perved,
so i went tracing back thro my mountains of mails to find the one where they had stated the birth certificate was acceptable,and mailed it back to her with the best choicen words i could think of without swearing,
so i`ll keep you all posted...
its only took 3 months to get this far...
First off let me say thank you for this thread as it is awesome. I have sold on ebay for 4 years and I've been screwed over as both a buyer and a seller. I am a power seller and list about 300 auctions a month so ebay gets it's pound of flesh from me, but is ebay there for any of us when we need it? The few main things that come to mind (as if I were to list them all I'd be here all day) is as a buyer I purchased a very hard to find figure that another power seller had several of up for auction and they had started them all at 99 cents. Well it seemed the seller only actually had about half of the number he had for auction and sent them to the highest half of bidders of the several seperate auctions then never sent or refunded the other half of the buyers. Of course the seller only accepted money orders or bidpay so end result after several emails to the complaint department and pleading with the ebay live help reps (who are anything but helpful) of the entire scam I received neither item nor refund nor peace of mind. At the same time as this deal was going on I had a buyer who claimed to have had a brand new still in the package boxed disc set that I had sent him that he claimed one of the disc was broken in half yet when I asked him to just email me a clear picture of the broken disc or ship it back to me and I would replace it as well as cover any shipping, he never responded and still paypal (a child of ebay with about as much support) took the money back for his purchase without one shred of proof that the disc was even broken. A fine example of how due to ebay you can be screwed out from either side of the market. The second example happened several months back where I had an international buyer that requested surface mail on an item and even though I voiced that surface mail is a bad way to go they were still set on it to save a few bucks. I then replied to them that usps surface mail can take anywhere from 10 days to 6 weeks and with anything in the hands of the usps for that long isn't safe and I would not be held responsible if it took 6 weeks or worse it was actually lost. They replied back that it was fine, they've done it before several times, and that they would take their chances. So I unfortunatly sent the item surface. Ten days later I received an email from paypal that a complaint was filed about the item. Since international surface mail doesn't offer any tracking or insurance there is no offical way to track it via internet so Paypal will not drop the charge. I got the fax number and customer service number to paypal and faxed them a copy of the customs formed stamped and signed by the post master of the small town I live in, the mail regulations and amount of time it can take to send packages for surface mail, and a personal note from the post master stating when I sent it out, when he personally sent it out, and how long it can take. I also sent copies of the emails that I sent to the buyer explaining the time it takes with their reply. To which I received the reply of that's nice but unless the buyer drops the charges or you can prove it was shipped with something that can be tracked online, the purchase will be refunded. So I asked the customer service rep that since paypal makes all there money off someone getting paid rather than someone actually paying, what recourse does the seller have, which was answered by stating the seller protection policy which pretty much states that you have the right to refuse payment from anyone. So their golden answer is basically don't sell. So once again ebay and it's golden child paypal fails it's customers, unless of course it's someone who's actually out to scam you as much as they are. The third and final example is the situation I find myself currently facing. About 5 months back I had a buyer that paid for his item with an electronic check through paypal which can take a few days to clear. The very next day after payment was filed and still uncleared he demanded his tracking info as it's been 24 hours since payment. All of this was done in a very rude manner from him and yet I replied that his item would be shipped when payment had cleared, as I was not making a reference to him but I have had e-checks bounce before once or twice. To this he became outraged and sent me several rude and nasty emails at the average of about 2 every day for the 4 days it took the check to clear. I sent the item and tracked it religiously, wanting to be done with this transaction. The day after the tracking info marked the package received he left this false feedback:

No communication,slow shipping 20 days,seller sucksscam artist Avoid!

so I left him feedback of:

HORRIBLE BUYER WITH BAD ATTITUDE! SELLERS BEWARE! AVOID AT ALL COST!!

I'm guessing he took this as a personal insult as he replied with this

Reply by : This seller is a peice of low life crap

and all of this is still completly visable in our feedback pages. I wasn't too worried over a neg. feedback but ever since then about every 2 weeks I get another email from him, which he sends through one of my "ask seller a question" link off of one of my auctions so I can't block his isp address or report him to his isp. Every email I have received has been nothing but him cussing me out and calling my whore, bitch, tramp, etc.. as a matter of fact here's a cut and paste of this morning's email:

Question from

About This Member

Positive Feedback: 98.6%
Member Since: Aug-03-01
Location: FL, United States
Registered On: www.motors.ebay.com


Hey you low life peice of shit, rip off anyone lately you scank whore bitch


and I've received one of these every 2 weeks. Now supposedly ebay has rules against harassing emails sent through their site and even have a link to report them within the emails that I receive. I have reported every single one with nothing more than an automated response and as always with ebay, no real solution. I know I can just delete them easy enough but ebay states they handle this stuff and what happens if one of my young daughters opens one of these emails, or god forbid, I'm dealing with a real nut who decides to pull my info off ebay and takes this to far. I've got a 2 year old and a four year old that are enough to worry about by themselves without adding a nut in the mix and there are some real psyco s running around. Where's ebay - probably typing up a new wave of automated responses. So once again thanks for this site and we'll see just how far I can get on the phone.




Here's my story,
i just earned my powerseller status last months. It only took me 3-4 months to get it. I sell about $1200 a week. I paid my fees and everything else. Ebay suspended me this month. I have 98.6%

A week before, I wrote to them about not being able to log onto my emails. I changed it meanwhile that other account was still opened. but I cant get in cus my computer's harddrive blew up. Didn't save my log in infos

Meanwhile, i couldn't even check for sure to see what the VERO was! They said they sent it to the recent one! I never got it!

livetalk is no help. we all know that by now. The only thing id like to get a class action lawsuit is for their customer support. They make us play by their rules but they won't even email us back like they promised.

I live only an hour away from their headquaters in SJ. Id love to get a group of people into one of their meetings and discuss their customer service.

id also like to file a class action suit. We're being bullied. Theyve violated FTC. i cant afford a lawyer but if we get a Class action suit filed up by a "contingency" lawyer, we can get our word out. Someone would want to make another ebay. I mostly want FTC to charge them w their bad customer service.

1-lied about customer service and not hiring enough staff members, kept looking for new customers avoiding the older ones.
2-signing an agreement that they don't live up to.

YAHOO was their competitor auction site, they didn't work as well. But if we get the word out, someones will make a site as large as ebay. They think their "apple" now but when we get a "microsoft" we're gonna kick their ass

http://www.pollwizard.com/6503

Does ebay suck?
GOOGLE WALLET AND GOOGLE BASE (AUCTIONS) IS REALLY COMING SO EVERYONE GET READY PLEASE EVERYONE USE IT SO WE CAN TAKE EBAY DOWN TO THE GROUND WHERE IT BELONG. I AM GOING TO WRITING EVERYONE KNOW ABOUT GOOGLE BASE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO STRIKE ON EBAY FOR TWO WHOLE WEEKS AND SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND MAKE THEM HEARD EVERYONE DEMANDS ABOUT BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE SON OF BITCHES































Here's some links i found for class action lawsuits. We can still join some of these:

http://www.fazmiclaw.com/eBay.html
(seller fees)


http://www.fazmiclaw.com/
(motor vehicle Lemon Law)


Excellent JOB!!! I am going to contact the attorney general of my state (NY), because any company that does not list their address or telephone numbers and wants to do everything through email is ridiculous. I had fraud commited on my credit card account. I been trying to contact ebay at the request of my bank, and no numbers were listed. HOW FRUSTRUATING IS THIS? I do not want to email my problem, I want to talk to someone and have someone tell me they have lauched an investigation on this problem and tell me that they will cooperate fully with my bank in finding the bastard(s) that went crazy with my credit card. I have written down all the numbers and if I find out any other info that can help others in this situation, I will post it here. BRAVO!!!!
I have the same shill bidding problems w suspension. has anyonegotten through the phone numbers. what else can we do?
This site is awesome..I want to congratulate the author for taking the time to set this up. I hope I never have to deal with customer service again but i know that is a dream. I have never heard of a company being so cheap that they will not pay for live support people. Watch out ebay someone is going to knock you off the mountain and when it happens I am willing to bet a thousand bucks that ebay will get the message...but will it be in time to save their global market..lets hope not !!
Dr Hidden

When that happens I hope everyone will buy stocks from that new auctionsite. Even a couple shares from each person would kick their ass

tell all your friends when it does happen
everyone uses ioffer it is better than ebay and ower fees and bidmonkey also very good who needs ebay I will never use again
What are the steps to start a new account where you can sell? Do you need to get a new IP address, and what about hiding your real name so Ebay doesn't link you to thier list of permanent suspended people?. How can you get a credit card/debit card without using your real name? Would a pre-paid credit card work to pay ebay where you could use any name for registration?
hi there,
THANKS FOR THIS BLOG. I have a HUGE ASS PROBLEM WITH EBAY NOW. im a Powerseller and decided to step up a notch on my sales by selling more and more until one day i got suspended FOR NO REASON. and NEVER GOT A REPLY in my email and FAX !!! 6 days !!!! 24-48 HOUR REPLY MY BUTT> then Ebay live chat thing is JUNK. "Ebay company does not have a phone number you can call" I HATE THEM i want to create a website like ebay but better who ever wants to do that contact me im soooo in trested now. IF YOU EBAY PHONE NUMBER send to me r998@yahoo.com thanks thanks ... STRIKE EBAY
I have been triing to contact ebay for months now. I have two accounts that need to be merged, the only problem is I can't remember the old info. I have tried to email customer support several times I have not received any helpful information. I can't use my paypal account because my credit card and bank account are tagged to some other account. This is really starting to piss me off and ebay doesn't give a shit. Idiots!!!
I just tried to purchase an Xbox 360 on Ebay,the seller promised that it would be shipped out the same day. She ended up not having the item on hand and tried to purchase it, using my address, from another Ebayer. I filed a buyer's claim with paypal so she didn't get the money. I purchased another Xbox 360 from another seller and now he is listed as not a registered member. Does anyone know how this works? Will I still receive my item as promised if the seller is no longer a registered member? Thanks.
I have just been suspended from ebay again for setting up another account i changed credit card details name tel no.etc but they still found it to be me again it looks like it was down to the ip address because i tried to log on to my old account whilst i was logged into the new one.I have sent them an email and sent them my passport id etc but have not recived an email back after waiting two weeks.But now i have found a telephone number for ebay they are there from 9am - 5pm the number is 07005003229.
I have just been victimized by ebay. They linked my account electroelite to an account ultimatedepot which I don't own. I later found out this account is someones in the family- they suspended me from ebay and ended 18 listings I had. It has been 1 week now. They told me to tell the person in my family to pay an overdue ebay balance and I would be reinstated.

Now the balance has been paid and ebay said, now bring the account into good standing. I paste the email I got from them:

Hello Tom,

Thank you for taking the time to contact eBay regarding the suspension
of your account.

We have reviewed your account and have determined that it cannot be
reinstated at this time. Although the ltimatedepot account has 0
balance, the account is still suspended for the following:

Suspension Reason: UPI
Suspension Date: Apr-18-05

This suspension must be resolved before we can consider your account for
reinstatement.

I appreciate your patience and understanding as we work with you to
resolve this matter.

Regards,

Wilhelm
Investigations Team
eBay Trust & Safety


So they lied to me. Now I am suspended for a UPI (whatever the hell that means) and it is not even my account. I have been emailing back and forth an no resolution. They are ignoring the fact that it isn;t even my account.

What makes me especially flustered is that they won't tell me what evidenc ethey have linking me to that account.

I am considering filing a subpoena in IL, Chicago court ditrict to request evidence.

They come at you with canned messages that half the time don't relate, they refuse to answer questions. What makes them so invincible? The fact that we can't afford trial lawyers like they can?

I have been illegaly suspended indefinitely with perfect feedback, I have done nothing whatsoever to deserve this. And- they refuse to talk to you on the phone, email only!!!

What a monopoly ebay and paypal are- under one roof. At least if they offered service for all the money we pay in royalties to use them, but nothing.

Thomas Horvat
thomas.horvat@comcast.net
First off I would like to thank everyone who is taking time to read these posts and also posting new ones. Here is mine: I recently purchased an xbox on ebay to resell. I listed my item and it was purchased 3 times by dead beat bidders. Than the forth time I listed it it sold auction style. With in 30 seconds of selling FUCKING EBAY suspended my account for no reason. Like many others FUCKING EBAY will not answer any e-mails to tell me what is going on. So I then started a new account witch is against FUCKING EBAY rules but who cares. That account has now been suspended. I am praying FUCKING EBAY folds up and disappears off the face of the earth, and is replaced by a customer friendly site which both
BETTER protects sellers and buyers. LET THE MOTHER FUCKER BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I just wanted to thank you folks for posting the phone #'s. I was suspended for shil bidding, all was going ok, they told me I was going to be re-instated in 7 days, but there was a slight mix up with the address they had on file and the one I gave when being reinstated. This caused major problems. The service sucked, I was promised phone calls that never came. I called the #'s you provided, dealt with a very rude and un helpful man at reception whi just kept cutting me off, or patching me through to dead ends. I finally called back and told him if he wasn't going to help me, I woul just go to the directory and punch in random extension #'s until I found someone willing to listen, he responded..."knock yourself out". So i started, and on try #5 I got lucky. ext #55121 if I recall correctly, patches you into the powerseller safety and trust, line. After a little bit of being given the run around , I was passed onto a young lady, who was truly an angel, she re-instated me within minutes after I had explained what had happened, and all the headaches customer service had put me through. I think the key is to be persisitant and polite, calling everyone fucking assholes will get you nowhere. Thanks again for the Blog, it was a lifesaver!
Just a slight correction to the above post, the extension # I used was 55212, NOT 55121...though who knows, that oe may lead somewhere useful as well....Have fun!
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hi guys I am in Australia
ok....
I WANT TO KILL THEM
I havent felt this pshycotic since well NEVER!!!!
I was selling an xbox aswell and they suspended my account for no reason....
I tried 16 times to open up an account with every family members information i could get my eyes on...
The BASTARDS LINKED THEM ALL UP!!!!
Iv tried calling
I HAVE TRIED EMAILING SENDING LETTERS
LAST THING FOR ME TO DO NOW IS PRINT THIS WHOLE BLOG AND SEND IT IN TO A T.V CHANNEL WHERE THEY WILL EXPOSE EBAYS DIRTY TRICKS!
I CANT HANDLE IT ANYMORE
I HATE THEM WITH A PASSION
I dont know who to call over here im stuck if anyone knows anything about ebay Australia msg me
thanks
Oh and im glad that there are people that think like me on this issue!
Instead of all those OH MY GOD I LOVE EBAY bastards out there that are so ignorant if you stuck a pole up their ass they wouldnt even feel it!
ok
I feel better
bye
I think you're a troll. Why would they want this blog and our information for? I think youre lying,I don't see your name anywhere on this site.

EVERYONE dont email him. He's very suspicious
Ebay live chat is a joke. They are working four or five chat at a time. Did you know you can't right click to cut and paste to save your chat with them. You can use Ctrl C to copy the chat and paste it in a word file but how many people know that??
The assholes that run ebay would do well in Nazi Germany.
Hi everybody- I'm glad there is a forum like this up as I have just suspended for shill bidding 3 days ago

so here I am acount been suspended, auction listing cancelled and all I now have to do is wait for 7 days. What should I do? - do I wait the 7 days and then send them an email and what are the consequences for it?

Thanks!
actually, I do find the US Customer Services BEING CRAP!!! Thus why I get the contact of either SG or UK customer services.

try emailing these people instead:
sgwebhelp
ukwebhelp
rswebhelp

the US ones...I don't wanna comment as they are NOT HAPPY WITH US!

thus why..we set up this EBAYTRUST.INFO website so you can share yr experience with our members etc..

One thing is that they are funning foul of trading competition laws as they only allow PAYPAL to be their preferred payment.

Thus why..ALWAYS HAVE MULTIPLE ACCTS...just in case...

PS:it's something about you SELLING XBOX,and electronics will get you in trouble,..esp with MICROSHIT. my PowerSeller acct got killed for that COA thing.

come on..tell us yr experience..and I'm willing to help anyone with a new account.
Wow, after thumbing thru a few of these bloggs I really regret purchasing anything from ebay. Maybe it was my bad but I attempted to purchase an item thru a buy it now. The seller was in Germany and I am in the United States. Well this morning when I checked my email I had something in there from ebay Germany, well after hours of looking for a way to translate the email, I find out the the seller is claiming someone fraudulantly accessed their account and listed these items. It said I needed to contact paypal to have the payment reversed. And so the fun begins......Paypal is telling me it could take up to 75 days for a refund at which time it would not guarantee I get my money back and by then it is too late to dispute it with my credit card. I contacted ebay live support and they are the most useless people I have ever spoken to. They continously tell me there is no phone number to call ebay and I need to speak to ebay Germany. Of course the only way to do that is thru email. Well that is all great but I do not speak or understand German so that will do me no good.....Needless to say I have spent the entire day on hold trying to get someone at ebay only be to transferred around and placed on the never ending hold. If anyone could please please please help me it would be much appreciated.......l_381@hotmail.com Patti
hi,

I hate ebay as well. The suspended account because i did not want to buy an item not won. They are just Dumb fuckers who need to be thrown off the the globe head first. They don't have contact numbers and when you find them on your own they refuse to transfer you or give you the valid extension. They are just fuckcakes.They belive they are the only ones who can build servers and run them efficiently but good news is soon coming even if i have to knock them off the old block! those son's of a bitches deserve it the thieving thugs!
I can't have a honest auction with out Feebay in my face . I was trying to auction an amp for ham radio , they just wiped it off the listing saying that they have watchers , they say you can't sell that . No real reason . And my biggest auction to date was a Gibson guitar and it sold to a 0 feedback buyer , I did every thing I know to help him with all the political ebay bullshit . We gave positive feedback , the next day my feedback was wiped out , so I get on live help . They tell me this guy had an active account but did not use it in a timely way , so you get no feedback and they suspended him . Fuck MEG and the rest of the Nazi dictators ...
I have a Petition for you to sign and anyone who has ever lost money on eBay.Here is the link.
http://www.petitionthem.com/default.asp?sect=detail&pet=2436

i don't know how to thank you for thos numbers ebay is one god damn company of fagets who are too lazy to reply a damn email when they make so much money. well my case was that i did everything i did as a buyer. i bid on the item. i pay for the item. i got the item. i left positive. i got a negative. yep i got a negative feedback. wtf! i email ebay. i read shit from computers. they tell me to go to squaretrade which is $30 to withdraw a damn feedback because the seller was a damn faget, and don't know how to leave positives. i admit ebay stuff is cheap but that is from the sellers, but ebay customer service is bullshit. i will be calling on monday
Well, if you're fortunate to have read this far down the blog, I can save you alot of time and effort sifting through all the crap.

#1, don't deal with them (this would be nice, but is not practical)

#2, if you have to deal with them, know what you're up against (seems like a no-brainer). Go to this ebay suspension help website, download the free ebook and at least read the first chapter. It tells all about the new ebay security that went into place on Jan 1, 2006. I thought it was bad before.

I got my account suspended on Jan 2 and spent a full week looking for a way to get back on. It's my only source of income, and a damn good one at that. I can tell you after reading everything out there, stop wasting your time looking. That site explains it all in a nutshell and the ebook tells you everything step by step on how to get back to selling.
E Bay is the biggest con job on the internet, Its amazing how they can treat everyone like an asshole and people just keep going to them for buiness, kinda like when you yell out HEY ASSHOLE real loud in a big crowd of people and all at once everybodys head turns, I call that the E Bay effect.
Thats real cool, Buy your book for 20.00 same old E Bay con job, just like all that fukin spam the site throws out. I feel the E Bay effect coming on again
This was the letter I sent to my laywer, CBS 60 Mintues and emailed/snail mailed to the President of the Company and all the Vice-Presidents. They have their names listed on the Ebay Website.
Let this letter serve as a formal complaint against ebay, Inc. and their customer service policy. At approximately 5:00 PM EST on February 3, 2005, I received an email stating my account, which dates back until 1999, was suspended. Shocked at this event, I immediately responded with an email, as I was directed to do. The direct reply stated that turn-around on these types of emails was normally 24-48 hours.
On Saturday morning, February 4th, at around 10:00 AM EST, I entered ebay Live Help to gain further information about my suspension. Between the hours of 10:00 AM and 4:00 PM, I was sent from 1 Live Chat to another as no agent could fully answer my questions. I was not given the name of supervisors, nor given direct phone numbers to speak to a live person, even though I continually asked for such information. It was not until almost 4:00 PM that a supervisor told me the account was ordered suspended by Paypal. Of course, I contacted paypal immediately and was told, there was no record of the sort on my account. When I attempted to return to the supervisor who told me to contact Paypal, he was conveniently "away from my desk" and when I left the agent a message to have him call me back, it was, of course, ignored.
This continued most of the day Sunday as well as no agent could give me an answer. I was continually told to "wait for a response on my email" as that was how ebay handled these situations. 5:00 PM EST on Sunday February 5th was 48 hours and I still had not received an email response. Again, I entered Live Chat, and again I was told to wait.
Monday morning I entered Live Chat again, and at around 8:30 AM EST, I spoke with an agent, Duggan, who told me he was lifting my suspension and I would be able to log in within the half hour. At 3:00 PM EST on Monday, I was still unable to log in and again entered Live Chat, at which point I was told again to wait for an email. This was approaching the 72 hour mark.
I was able to obtain one piece of information from an agent, who stated items banned on ebay were sold on my account. I am under the impression that my account was accessed illegally by an ex-business partner of mine who still had access to our information. I have since changed my password on by my ebay account and my email. I have been an ebay user since 1999 and have near perfect feedback. I am appalled at the customer service policy your company has. I am shocked that a multi-billion dollar company handles their customers this way. I have since contacted my lawyer to deal with my ex-partner and have spoken with 60 Minutes.
I am writing this letter at 11:00 AM EST on Tuesday February 7, 2006 and to date, nothing has been resolved. I have yet to receive an email response as I was told I would and it is well over 84 hours and counting. I have left countless messages at the 1-800-322-9266 number, along with 3 emails and over a dozen chats. I have been lied to by agents who have stated the suspension had been lifted on two different occasions, yet I am still unable to log onto my account. Furthermore, I have been told technical difficulties arose and the response to my email was sent with nothing in the body, yet they are unable to forward it again. A message was left for a supervisor, Dugal, who did not respond after I asked him to call me immediately. Please contact me any time, day or night. I want to resolve this situation as soon as possible. I would have hoped it would have been resolved already especially since I personally have done nothing wrong to warrant this suspension.

F EBAY!
section9.i8 will rip you off, they are scam artist, I am just letting people know. They will rip you off guaranteed.
Thanks steve, I deleted references to that site.

Has anyone tried this posted by Halox? I want to dl this, just wanna make sure it doesn't have spyware
OH MY GOD....I've just paid money for the section9.i8 people cos i've read from ohter websites that they can help you to get back on eBay. SH*** Will i get rip off?? Any one have any idea..please keep me posted. THANKS
The ebay computer , what a fucking lie ... Trying to do what is right , just e-mailing my customers to fix things that one has no control over , Like shipping and mis handeling , you know . So after My 6th or 7th email ebay say's " SORRY YOU ARE OVER YOUR EMAIL LIMIT " no more emails . WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT . The hell with all this political crap all these years . I can sell from the paper ....CUSTOMER SERVICE , I have a conscience , DO YOU ( EBAY )
Can anyone help me or suggest somthing I can do about my suspension from ebay for suspected shill bidding.

My account has recently been suspended for shill bidding. Although I now appreciate that what I was doing would have been viewed as suspect when I was doing it it was completely sincere and I had no idea it was wrong.

Basically I sell dvd's and simalar items, my brother in law would always come over and borrow these and then id have to chase him up as he often borrowed ites I had selling on ebay.

So I said to him, mate you will have to set up an account and bid and buy them yourself. Major Error I know.

I helped him set up the account and also gave him an email addy that I set up on yahoo ages back.

So he would come over, look at what I had - if it wasnt selling on ebay he would buy the item off me for cash. If it was I would turn the laptop over to him, smile and say 'bid away my freind' This he would. Of course this was a benefit to me but I saw no harm at all.

If the amount got too high he simply would stop bidding and if he won he would pay me cash and take the item - of course he would not pay postage so he was happy.

On many occassions he would take home a movie watch it then hand it back to me and say 'sell this for me on ebay as im finished with it' this I naiveley did for him and any monies due less my expenses I would simply hand over to him or allow him to use as credit against items I had that he wanted.

Ebay have suspended me and I just cannot get any response out of them, its been 8 days now and after 12 emails I got an automated response asking for a declaration I wont do it again, blah blah blah. I have done this and nothing.

I am desperate for the income I had on ebay and this will effect me considerably.

Can you suggest anything?

Thanks
M
WOW this sehds light on alot for me! I was suspended 2 days ago, no idea why! I am a new seller, 100% positive feedback and over 100 transactions in total.
I received email saying I was suspended and all it said was abuse. What the hell did I do? I have sent in 14 YES 14 emails no response and they must have gotten smart on this phone thing because it only gives you 3 options all ending in them telling me to try LIVE HELP which told me they cannot do anything it's up to the trsu and safety department!
I am soooo upset, not only have they made a shitload of fees off me, they boot me and ask me to pay my remaining balance! I think NOT.
I also had a friend come over to bid who did not have his own account so he used a household members and now after getting suspended, I read about how friends are not allowed to bid on my stuff. No harm meant and not even allowed to contact them to appeal for a week. Well it has now been a week so I will fire off my appeal, but from what I see here, I don't have much chance... Any suggestions as I have not seen anyone else but Ginerva state she got back on?
i hate ebay so much, i really want to get as many people to hate ebay as possible, i know so may powersellers that has been mistreated, screwed by ebay and paypal. I'm spreading the word and i hope there's a lawyer out there who's reading this, can file a class action suit against them.

the thing is, they'll kick you off even if they don't have any PROOF, while most of us have perfect fb score, they don't even give a shit. Im sick of them, i hope we can go to their meetings and protest. We need to go to as many conferences as possible and get it out to the newbies. ALL They care about is signing up, they don't care about anything after that
I too have been wrongfully suspended by ebay, The first time was a couple of weeks ago, we were suspended for shill bidding. I am a new seller and didnt know the rules, but never bid above my reserve price. I WAS WRONG! I paid my fees that they took, which was okay. So I got reinstated, vowed I would never shill bid again. I listed about 20,000 dollars worth of stuff on ebay, things were going good...BOOM they cancelled all my auctions again. I got the same shill bidding notice I got one week earlier. Ive called Ive emailed. Im not paying them this time, this IS THERE FAULT. We have got to get everyone together and start and auction site, No one with this poor customer support should be able to stay in business. The people built Ebay and this is how we get repayed I dont think so, there has to be something we can do. If anyone has a class action law suit against Ebay email me. I dont see how it is legal to suspend your account take your money and not even show you proof. Im just glad I realized how ebay was before I had several thousands in listing fees then they suspended me.
HEY FEEBAY " WHAT IS YOUR OVER YOUR DAILY LIMIT FOR EMAIL ? I only email back to buyers that ask qwestions ?
I sent them a comment about them limiting messages between members, and it was not just daily. I know it must be because they are scared of losing some fees. Even when you have bought or sold something... Plus this stuff about typing in a code number to send a message now if you don't have a transaction with a member and plus if you have no feedback you can't send a msg to anyone. Big brother has nothing on eBay. Once they asked me for a credit card number on my account to confirm who I was. I hope this was a spoof because they are nuts if they think I will give them financial info to get permission to send a message. They never answered me on my comments. They have become power crazy. I got some lame live chats from them in the past also when I needed help. At least I did not get hung up on. I think they have outgrown the ability to help their members so they want to run the thing like a concentration camp to keep us in line. Next thing they'll do is require retinal scans and fingerprints to login to prove you are you.
Avoid www.section9.i8.com I dealt with Jeff - he was so quick to answer emails and take my money but heard not a peep since. Guys like him should be strung up by the b**ls!! Never send money to anyone on the internet using Western Union - there is no way of tracing it! This guy is making money out of desperate people trying to get back on Ebay - its a big scam AVOID!!!!

CA ninians DO NOT VOTE FOR WHITELY. He has something to do w EBAY DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM
I was successful at being reinstated so now having read the horror stories and lived one, I took their tutorials and learned a lot about their warped rules. I was so surprised to learn how treacherous and narrow their path is to walk without being subject to deletion. I feel like it will be difficult to do everything so perfectly and avoid more wrath from the mighty eBay Gods we cannot talk to except in our prayers. I think I may turn in others like they did to me for the pettiest crap which breaks their rules. They told me they treat all sellers alike regarding the rules. We shall see... They sure don't enforce the contract made buy a bidder who decides not to pay. Paypal won't enforce their 1000 guarantee if you get defective, or incorrectly advertised merchandise. So when you get frauded by a seller, don't tell paypal you received the item or they say CASE CLOSED! WE CANNOT HELP YOU- GOOD LUCK! I got scammed out of 1100 and was expecting to only be out for 100 after Paypal's guarantee took care of me, wrong! I got sent a no-working knock off Rolex and nothing but accusations and grief from the seller. That was through PriceGrabber.com which is a great site. This storefront private seller was giving a likely story about him being a preacher and his dad just died, and he came across it in his dad's things, so he was selling it for funeral expenses, and I fell for it. At least PriceGrabber was willing to guarantee 500 for me if this guy did not refund me. I google earthed him and was tempted to go get my money or other satisfaction directly from him by taking a road trip. Thanks Paypal for nothing after I pay you 2.9% on every dollar no matter if it is from check or cash or credit that I earn just so I can accept credit card payments. Then I had to get a lesson from another source because they would not coach me to figure out how to pay someone with my credit card when paying through Paypal and showing a balance in my account. Most of the time it is not worth the hassle. Feebay and payscam if you ask me.
I cant believe all you poor people have problems with this WOUNDERFUL EBAY!! I have made a little money here and there and I ........Oh to hell with it....My doctor said to avoid stress.... Gote FUXXKERS! Whoops. BE right back taking more meds... PAUSE ... Okay Let me splain it to U LUCEY/LUCIE/LUCY/LUCE just pic one and be happy. I was suspended without notice a year ago because APPARENTLY I violated the FEDS international weapons sales restrictions byu sellng weapons overseas. YES I AM REALLY MOHAMID GOSEFARTASHIT the well known underground BUG TERRORIST. DUMB SHITS i was listing many nice things and I guess I pissed someone off because I hit a predetermined dollar figure that the suites have secretly set. So they claim I was in violation of illigal weapons sales. When I asked what the hell they where talking about the answere a week later was you listed a questionable item yatta yattta. There answere made no sense. So after 42 billion curse words I finaly was told that I had listed a TOY AIRSOFT BB GUN $#$#$ OH MY GOD NO%%$$## Well yes I still feal bad NOT!! The problem was I used a repedative form that I just cut and past new items into and these airsoft items indicated overseas shipping was available. So instead of asking me or telling me they did a flanking movement and blind sided me with a sucker punch. I WAS AND STILL AM SO PISSED. So eventually I got on and up and running. I lost me power sellers rank my store was OKAY READY FOR THIS - My store was electronicly RAPED! I must admit I GUESS I CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE GENIOUOSE CATEGERY. I am poor and hard working. Okay thats crap the true story is I do have parkinsons, My family hasa dishoned me. Life sucks I feal like I am always moving in quicksand I am actually sweeting and shakkinng trying to make my hands work the keyboard.

Ebay this time said WE ARE TAKING THESE MEASURES ""FOR YOUR PROTECTION""" Well god dam it put a little lubricant on the trojen before you shove it up my BEEP BEEP. THREE DAYS NOW I CANT GET TO MY ACCOUNT MY FAMILY WONT HELP SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO OFFER A LITTLE SUPORT PLEASE TAK A LOOK AT www.tjspy.com go to the bargin basement link. I cant keep up with it but I have a thing for buying and sellinnnnig.. I gotta go before I shake the computer to pieces. EBAY I HAVE SOME ADVICE but i will share it with nice people not you. Call 1-800-RatsAss
MONICA Thanks for that positive comment about smooth sailing. Keep your bilge pump handy and purchase a new up to code flotation dvice JUST IN CASE. I have had good luck on ebay and I have had REALLY GREAT CUSTOMERS. Hey lets start a traing class for thoes poor folks at ebay
Update my family cares
I sent ebay another note and i have another well scripted wounderfully thought out and maticulosly designed "COMPUTER RESPONSE" can we send a compputer of the oposit sex to intice "HAL" to give up controll of the ebay ship ?? I am sure that is why they dont answer. they are all being held captive by the main computer...
Jeez, halox, either learn how to close your fucking bold tags or quit pretending you know HTML.
What a great sight! As of Thursday I am now a suspended reject Ebay Seller! I was a Platnum Powerseller with 99.9% feedback out of 6,398 feedbacks. It turns out that Ebay has suspended me because I was selling a miniature toy cap gun! Needless to say, there are hundreds if not thousands of toy cap guns on Ebay, yet they have suspended me for selling one. I have answered there useless Appeal Suspensions which have been no help at all. I have emailed them and nothing. As a Powerseller, we get a phone number to call and they told me to fill out the suspension appeal and that they could not help me.
I have looked on the internet and have found many sights where people have been screwed by Ebay. Ebay is not the law nor are they government. I know they think they are but they are not. With so many suspended Ebayers out there, why can we not get together and join a new aution site and make that sight bigger and better then Ebay. I have joined Ebid and they have great rates and lots of auctions. If you are depressed about the fact that Ebay has suspended you, believe me there is life after Ebay.
Ebay is only a company who cares for the money they pull in. They do not care about there buyers or customers as this is clear in thee actions by there poor customer service.
So come on Ebay suspended members, lets pull together and join Ebid or another auction site and take control of our lives.
Ebay is and will be held accountable for there actions. Look under Law Suite Ebay in your search engine. There are pages and pages of suits against Ebay. So many in fact that Shareholders of Ebay Stocks worry. I would too. Ebay is not god and it is certainly not a government in which it can make decisions to ruin people's lives.
We have stored all of our customers contact information and we will send them emails containing information on what Ebay did to me as well as our new location Ebid. I urge all to at the very least look at what Ebid on line auctions has to offer. I have read and checked them out and they appear to be one of the best auction services.
As for Ebay, as another auction site grows to the size of Ebay and swallows it whole, I will be there to watch. Tread carefully Ebay, the thin sheet of ice you are on is about to break!!
Hi,
I too got screwed from ebay, I did admit I did something wrong, I fixed the situation and thought I would get on with my life. Turns out, they make you fix all your negative feedbacks too and go to there crappy square trade place, well, i ended up giving some idiot a refund and he got to keep my stuff too just so I can feed my kids. Well, now I have to fill out some more paperwork to get back on, the security people that mail to you suck, they mail one time per day and everyday you get something that tells you to do just one more thing.
I think since they make all this money, they should care about the people that are building them higher and higher.
Like K-mart and others like it, they too will fall.
It takes people (sellers & buyers) to make ebay run and everyone should band together and sue them and MAKE them get phones and a way better security system.

I don't know how great this bidding place is, but here is another option for auctions.
http://www.ebid.net

I listed my motorcycle on 3-19-2006. A day passed and it was still not showing up under any searches. Contacted ebay live chat support. They said cancel the auction and re-list. I have done that 4 times since Saturday to no evail. What is up with their indexing system. I called the 800 # located on this site. She answered "How did you get this number" I said "From a site on the web" She said "Ok, thanks" and then hung up. Disgruntled now, I called back immediately and it rang off the hook for about a minute. I sent a well worded (proffesional, adult-like) email to their customer support monkeys. One houe later I log on and my account has been suspended. This was my first attempt to sell anything on ebay, and I do not owe them a dime for anything. So I checked out ebid.net Still a pretty small market there. I'm finished with cyber auctions, and off to grab my local paper.
Hi,
does anyone have the e-book to get back on ebay ?? I was wrongly suspended.... If anyone has the e-book to get back on ebay i would love to hear from you thank you. Em
Could some one please help me I have been selling on ebay in the United Kingdam for the past 18 months. most of what I have sold has gone to the USA, over the time I have met some very nice,good,people and made many contacts.

Howevere Ebay in there wisdom have decided that I must become USA verified, to continue trading, they also insist that my turn over must be at least $5,000 a month. Some chance if they will not let me build my trade with the biggest market in the world.

Can some one please help. Thanks for reading this notice.Kindest regards to all in the USA. Pat, from over the pond.


WHY EBAY IS SUSPENDING SELLERS WITH 100% POSITIVE FEEDBACK?

My friend and I partnered up and converted one of our accounts with around 200 plus 100% positive feedback to sell jewelry which we did for living for the past 25 years with great success. After uploading and fixing our multi million dollar inventory to a third party listing company “ Channel advisor” and preparing for months, investing time, hiring people, effort,,,,,,finally we started uploading to ebay, and guess what???? They suspended during our upload even before our first transaction for a bogus reason “violating ebay policies?” Or some crap like that, I know, I know it was fast, but couldn’t they warned us? Couldn’t they showed us the way to become a super power seller? No, no, no, they had to bury us, and not answer us, and treat us like criminals and make believe like we hadn’t paid, but how could that be? They have our bank account numbers, and credit card on file. We have received notice after suspension thanking us for payment.

If I did this to any of my customers, I would’ve lost them for good.
Our government is fighting a war that doesn’t do us any good instead they should fight the biggest criminal of all times “EBAY”. For not supporting the fellow sellers and users, and for not answering emails, no phone numbers, no real person to talk, totally hidden business address and phone number,,????Whats going on? This looks like a scam, we should be suspending ebay not the other way around. Right?

If everyone like us who suffered or suffering ebay dessease, got together and started a class action law suit, maybe they straighten things out.

Anyway, I will be printing this letter, notarize it send it to my local government. Send it to BBB post it on every billboard, and blog, perhaps even start a website and advertise it for others to see.

I will post this in my “about me” page on one of my ebay accounts and see how quickly they response to me and/or suspend that account as well.



3,080+ feedback with 4,200 positives and 100% with NO negatives. Suspended March 28,2006. Ebay has to give a reason as to why the account is suspended. My account was compromised through a Sign In link on the ebay Community Board. These guys were good. While I was ebaying, they were listing Guides and voting on them, heck they even accessed my email and my website.
No answer from ebay via their Safe Harbor.

Life does go on and there is always amazon., yahoo, etc... I guess that there is a difference between a suspension and a indefinite suspension. I just spoke to a fellow ebayer who was suspended for not paying a bill and he was reinstated after four months.
I was suspended last week for Shill Bidding. I had bid on an item that my girlfriend had on eBay with no reserve. It had about an ounce of silver in it (at least 10 dollars worth). It was going to sell for 1.00 so I bid 1.25 and won the item. 2 days later we were both thrown off for shill bidding. Is there any chance of reinstatement. I really didn't know you couldn't bid on an auction if you new te person. I just viewed it as an opportunity to make about 8 dollars from scrap.
Help may be on the way. It appears that eBay requiring us to only correspond by e-mail or wire gives us some benefit. In addition, requiring us to pay for services not completed when auctions are cancelled upon suspension, then some of us were re-instated only to be suspended again within days and made to pay for those cancelled auctions as well hoping to be reinstated, may just violate Federal RICO laws, i.e. extortion on a large scale through same or related (only eBay members - captured group)persons over a long period of time (not a single isolated incident)and using electronic or wire to do so. I have an attorney friend in the largest law firm in the country that is willing to take this on; however, besides me we need 500+ other members who have been similarly suspended and made to pay fees for cancelled auctions, then reinstated. It is important that you did get re-instated at some point. This would show that there was a direct benefit to eBay for you to have been suspended the first time at their discretion and monies extorted before they would let you back on. IF, and its a big IF, this would be taken on and won, the damages that eBay would have to endure would be 3 times whatever is awarded those of us included in the action. If the case is filed and a judge (Federal) determines it has enough merit to go forward, just the fees eBay will have to pay to fight the case would be enormous. We are trying to determine the best way for people who felt that they have been victimized by eBay through suspension to come forward and feel comfortable that they are only sharing information under a potential attorney/client relationship. As soon as that process is determined, I will post on as many sites as possible the information.
It's really a shame that a company as profitable as this does this to people. I did a little research on the internet and found that when I joined eBay the "friends, family, or co-worker" was not in the policy. However the catch all that we can change this at anytime without notifying you was in the rules. I would be on board with taking them to court. I can understand that they can restrict use but I think they should use the same definitions for shill bidding as the the actual authorities.
Thursday night someone tried to hack into my computer and I reported it to eBay, then Friday I installed Norton to help me with this problem and then I put some more items on eBay. We had over 100 items being sold on there site, and in our store or on auctions. Saturday night when we came home from having super eBay cancelled everything I was doing I had over 30 items I was bidding on and over 100 items being sold. They said that I was shill bidding, one I never heard of that and two what am I suppose to do if people bid on my stuff and then I find out when it is over that I know them, when you have that many items and you are trying to get bigger you don’t have time to check your bid histories. That means everyone you meet and give your EBay store address to, or you let people pick up there stuff they can not bid on your stuff any more because now you know them, that sounds pretty bad here we are trying to build our site and in less then 2 months we had 89 positive feed back and growing. We also had new business cards made that gave people our store address on EBay. We made about 100 cards already, and now all those people can not bid on our stuff because they already met us, we are from a small state and town and every one know everyone in the state and in town and the states next door, and most of the people are related one way or the other. And if you go back far enough everyone on earth is related. If I knew that reporting a problem was going to cause all these problems I would have never reported anything. There are many people emailing us wanting to know why our bids were canceled when we were the high bidder, they are not to happy. Also we have had customers that were bidding on our stuff wanting to know what happened to the items that they were bidding on. Like one person said they like our stuff, how we list it is perfect and honest and we had a great feed back score, and people did not have to ask many question on the items. We just got done paying last month’s bill in full on Saturday. We had a good thing going and EBay took it away over night. When you live in a small town you are always looking for a way to make a living, and I don’t see why we should be penalized for people wanting to buy our stuff for we have just picked up four new accounts for we have a lot of consignment items, and now where do we go with all this stuff. IT IS NOT LIKE EBAY IS NOT MAKING MONEY FROM US.
Hey Guys ,
I am hoping to get some support here and inform sellers who are in the same boat as i am now.

I had my listings removed on a few occassions because ebay suspected the item i sold as fake and deemed it had violated their policy . I have lost 2 weeks of sales and all my effort in preparing the auctions up for sale . I have sent them tons of email demanding why did they removed my listings w/o explaination but reply i got back were canned answers and asking you to read their policies.

Below is what ebay sent me :::

We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been suspended for a period of no less than 7 days for violating eBay's Trademark Misuse policy.

Misuse of brand names, trademarks, and logos is both illegal and against eBay policy. This includes inappropriate comparisons to a branded item, selling counterfeit or replica items, and keyword spamming.

Unauthorized replicas of brand name products are not permitted on eBay. It is both against the law and against eBay policy to sell replicas that have not been authorized by the manufacturer.

Consequently, all of your current listings have been removed from eBay. During this period you will be unable to leave or receive feedback, bid on or sell items, or file for an Unpaid Item credit. Should you need to access information from listings which ended before your suspension period, you can do so by reviewing the notices you received at the time the listings ended.

We have taken this action only after careful consideration of the history of violations on your account. We have reviewed carefully each offense that led to this decision and verified that the correct action was taken.

While this suspension is active, you are prohibited from registering under a new account name or using another existing account to use our system in any way. Any attempt to reregister or use our system in any way will result in permanent account suspension with no possibility of reinstatement.

Please note that any seller fees due to eBay will immediately become due and payable. eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously disputed to the billing method currently on file.

You are very important to eBay and this period of time will help us to build a better relationship. We hope you will come away with a better understanding of our policies.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter.

Regards,
eBay Trust & Safety

Fustrated , i spent $150 to have my item/s authenticated even though i knew they were 100% authentic asi bought them myself just so to get proof. I now have the paper evidence i need to take this matter to court. I am now seeking a class-action arbitration suit against them n would like to openly invite sellers who have their account wrongfully suspended in error to post yr emails address and Concerns here and see what action can we take in uniform.

I cannot take this no more n i hope this would at least voice our concerns so that the people in ebay would know we sellers are no push-overs and it is NO LONGER A VENUE ANYMORE!!!

and the result is in. I am re-instated with ebay after my account was compromised and several cretins from asia made posts on the Community Boards in my good name by using my account.

I received a email from ebay North America, Bill Cobb's office and went from there. I choose not to divulge the details of the email. All I will say is that I am reinstated and life goes on and for all of those who are frustrated with ebay, May the Force be with you always! darthoz [-o-]



www.darthoz.com

Have any of you seen the 2500 plus number of mystery auctions, with get rich quick scams, and mystery envelopes? They all start with a disclaimer to ebay about how it is not a raffle or a giveaway bonus enticement to bid, etc... and that they are selling electronic envelopes with free gifts in them. How can ebay ignore all these blatant gambling sites. You pay and they tell you what you won by sending you paypal money back. Some offering cash to the one being the first to have bid different levels for a box with nothing in it. I ee people puting up auctions for nothing just to try to get watchers. A guy sold a rubber band with the title "Buy my rubber" and a pic of a condom but when you look at the details it is a rubber band. Crazy crap going on and NOT GETTING STOPPED by big brother. I see so many keyword spammers when looking for a certain produt it wastes my tim skimming through thm all. Ebay will never be perfect, but they selctively single out some of us who inadvertantly break a rule. I started reading some of their rules and they can be prettyharsh IMHO. Why wouldn't I tell a friend to feel free to participate if they are interested in my item? Are my repeat customers now that I have gotten to know them considered shill bidders? The trick seems to be learning how to manipulate the system to your advantage by learning their loopholes such as charging dirt cheap for your item and making it up with enormous shipping charges to avoid fees. This breaks their rules, but according to the latest info they have not yet made guidelines to judge this. I have reported some breakers of this rule and their auctions don't get pulled. I have reported some misleading auctions in which they are selling information for this or that, when their title states they are selling a certain brand name and model of item. I see lots of spamming brands and other keywords. Selling replicas blatantly. Harsh and unfair feedback. You name it. Reporting seems to do no good yet they say they rely on us to help watch for abusers.
I sometimes feel like if you cant beat em join em but I wont lower myself to their level. I will walk the straight and narrow and pray I dont get kicked off again for doing something I didn't know was wrong without even a warning.
I have had countless issues with eBay. I have been a seller for almost 7 years. I have a feedback of 14,000+ with no negative feedback. I have been suspended countless times for no reason and only got back on after countless calls and emails. Recently they suspended my account again for no reason.

I am webhosting company and am going to attempt to make a new marketplace for online auctions. I know this is a risky move without all the users. I am hoping that people like you will help by listing auctions and so forth. I intend to make it free for the first auctions and move on from there. In an attempt not to spam your blog, I will just say to anyone who would like to support this effort to click my name below and send me an email. I will respond to you with the URL when development of the site has completed (about 1 week.)

Thank you for all the valuable information above and I hope to hear from you all soon.
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I am totally fed up with Ebay. For ligitemate business yes its a great idea but it is totally open to abuse and I think should not be used but the GP. I have had an alfal experience which has involved getting the police involved. Ebay have done absolutely nothing, and yes the customer services dept, which is none existent are CRAP. The situation basically involves someone falsely selling an item to me, then took over 60 days to send the item, because of the length of time, ebay has refused to acknoledge thet this has happened, I was conned out of £20, couldnt report the faudster and i have had to get the police involved. Since I have refused to pay my ebay fee's and am totally happy that my account has been suspended. DOWN WITH THE FASCIST EBAY SCUM.
And the plot thickens....I have been complaining to regulatory agencies and news stations as well calling and emailing eBay everyday (multiple times a day.)

I live in Canada and the laws for consumers and internet companies are much different here than in the US. After emailing the board of eBay and a few other legal moves. eBay sent me an email from eBay explaining that they had made a mistake and would be happy to resinstate my account if I would send them a copy of my birth certificate and SIN card.

Well, for starters, in Canada you don't have to give your SIN number to ANYONE other than the government. Even of credit card applications, it says "SIN number is optional." I checked with HRDC (the agency that handles our SIN cards) and they told me that I did not have to and should not send them my SIN information.

I spoke with someone at eBay and they told me they didn't card what the Canadian Government had to say about their request that it would not change. Send it in or be off eBay forever. He even went as far as to say "We are a US company and do not have to honor the laws of another country." I asked him if he was aware that eBay charges my credit card as "eBay Toronto". He seemed a little dumbfounded. I explained to him (like a child) that Toronto was in the Province of Ontario in the country of CANADA. Which means that they are claiming to be a registered business of Canada (which they are according to Tax Canada.)

After a minute or two of silence from him, I said that since they were registered here, they did in fact has to abide by our laws and were breaking the law by forcing me to send them my SIN card. At this point he hung up on me. (I recorded the phone call)

I will be passing on the information from that call to HRDC.

I always thought of eBay as a large company that followed the letter of the law. I guess I was wrong! I'm so fed up with this, I am determined to finish my auction script and bring a new marketplace online. One that doesn't unfairly suspend it's users. I can understand suspending someone if they have done something wrong (such as fraud.) But, to get a notice that you are "abusing" eBay and no further information? What is that? That's like the police saying "You will be put to death tomorrow because we feel like it." I mean, where is the logic here? There doesn't appear to be any. I'm sick of eBay and I intend to complain until I make them suffer, but I have NO intentions of returning there to sell or to buy. I am a few days from completing my auction site and will hope for a miracle in obtaining users. However, I'm still stuck on a few things with registration and would really enjoy the opinions of some of you. Please don't post them here, this is not my blog and I don't want to spam. Just email me by clicking my name below.

Like I said in earlier posts, the best way to hurt them is to get people to stop using them. The more of us that use another auction site and bring our friends and family to it, the more they will suffer the losses. Eventually leading to them increasing their prices to cover costs, which will result in a higher loss of users.

Thank you for the blog, I feel better now that I've vented.
Mark,

I just wanted to add something about your statement. I'm not sure how the police work where you are. But here and in the US when I lived there, eBay refused to cooperate and it ended up costing me more money than it would if I had just let it go. I'm not saying not to pursue it, but just be advised eBay isn't the best at helping it's victims.

Boy, I am glad that I dumped my ebay stock and made a killing. I bought tons of Google and made a killing off that too. I was thinking about buying ebay stock again. Ebay has been very good to me and I would like to thank them for all of the $ I made.



I see here that there are a lot of rules that people seem to violate. The key is to read all of the rules and go from there. A lot of people seem to get busted for violations. A example: your brother can be the winner of a "Buy it Now!" listing but he can't be bidding on your auctions. Come on now! Duh! Doesn't this make sense. Why in the world would your brother be bidding on your auction?



Unless he lives in another state. If my brother wanted to buy something from me, well, I would sell it to him via Paypal if he was in another state. There is a difference in being suspended and indefinitely suspended. Follow the rules. My brother bought a item from a bloke in England and the bloke did not ship. He did not buy the Buyer Protection on the item and he has a Masters Degree.



If I was him, I would have bought the Buyer Protection especially when I am paying over $100.00 quid for a car part from England to the states. Common sense.



I personally have done over 1,000 transactions. One guy I had to hunt down for my refund over 60 days. Another guy thrashed the cd that I bought but we rectified the situation and the last one. Well, I won an apple and he offered me two more outside of ebay for $20.00...what did I receive? A total of three oranges. My fault. I should not have been involved in a transaction outside of ebay in the first place.



If you do not receive a item in 10 days +, file a item not received form via ebay and file a non performing seller form. There is always a way to contact ebay also. If the item is over $25.00, I thinkt that they you have a say. Always use Paypal. They seem pretty good at obtaining refunds.



In closing, all I have to say is follow the rules.


this is what i say F*$k Ebay

They screwed me bad and i followed the rules i say if we can get as many people to quit and go somewhere else that would be great
I am a college student who recently started selling some exclusive clothing from Japan on Ebay to make a little extra money. I have 100% feedback at about 60. A few weeks ago I had an item cancelled by ebay for "trademark misuse". I did everything ebay told me to do and relisted a similar item a few weeks later. Last night I got an email saying my account was indefinetly suspended. I am furious because I feel i did nothing wrong and am getting screwed with several hundred dollars worth of inventory that I can do nothing with!! I paid my ebay fees and sent them an email but got nothing back. WHAT DO I DO??? I NEED MY ACOUNT REINSTATED NOWWW!!!!
Here is our up date, well we finaly got reistated they emailed us and said we would be back on in 7 days and it took 10 days, and all we did was my relitive that lives in another state bid on a item that they wanted and did not know that you could not do that for we have a store and we consign alot of items for people and we have a contract with these people to put it on auction, and we can not sell any of there stuff off the auction for any reason, untill our contract is over and we have to do something different if there stuff dont sell. well when we got suspended we emailed alot to ebay and did a lot of live chats, and we also emailed everyone that ever contacted us through our email box for our computer save all addresses that we respond to, and told them what happend, and final after a test and signing a promice we are back on and we are being real carefull now and if we have the slightest dought we email ebay and ask for there ok now. we live in a real small town and this is just helping us make a living. we have tried other auctions and they are not as good. we are very honest with our stuff and we even go as far as showing the smallest flaws we can find so that everything is disclosed, we are in hopes that doing this will insure we dont get in trouble. you must walk a fine line.
That trash posted by IKrjbKgWRS needs to go .... This is a real ebay blog with real concerns . FEEBAY IS COMPUTER GENERATED, BY LEFT WING COMMUNIST WHO MAKE GREAT AMOUNTS OF MONEY WITH NO REAL TIME , SMART AND FARE CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE ...
Hello Ebay has to be the most frustrating system I have ever dealt with. I live in NJ and I thought Motor Vehicle was BAD. Ebay blows them out the water.
I too was suspended for some bullsh*it excuse they give. They linked me to an account my partner had 2 years ago. She tried to make good on her ebay fees AND contact any people she may have missed before or after her suspension, but guess what?? Ebay will not give her that info. It's a load of crap.
What I want to do is not give them one more dime of my money. I want to find the solution, not live in the problem. Where else do we go to sell our merchandise online???????? Ebay has the whole freakin internet monopolized. Power sellers should get together and start their own auction website called "we hate ebay.com" Oh I am sorry, I forgot I read somewhere Ebay "purchased" the rights to the word "bay" in conjunction with auction sites. Now that is freakin UNBELIEVABLE!! Just goes to show Money talks and Bullsh*t walks. If anyone knows of any good auction sites please feel free to contact me at JENLACORTE@YAHOO.COM
I am mad at ebay for all of the reasons you all are- I've read this blog almost 3 times- I decided to remove the email toolbar that mysteriously appeared on my computer (I didn't put it there) and guess what its registered to!!- triciastotes (the account ebay suspended me for shill bidding) I have a new IP address in Costa Rica after reading this blog, but that toolbar could help ebay find my new I.D.'s

I can buy now but have to figure out how to sell so I can at least get rid of my inventory and hope to God a better auction site comes along-
ebay has suspended my account without prior notice or any reason. Anyway, I have tried to reach them to find out why this happened but as we all know they don't have customer service. How can these people stay in business? Why don't we all do something? They make billions and take our money and we just sit back and do nothing. We need everyone to get together and put these crooks out of business. Does anyone know how we might be able to file a class action lawsuit against these people? This is outrageous.
Yes ebay breakes the rules when it comes to the law or people rights.ebay sucks and this page is great!i sold a boat and the guy filed dispute for some dumb reaso thinking ebay would help. there policy say s they dont try to get in the middle.my cpu was in the shop so I didnt get there mesage.they (((((((((((((they suspended me indefinitly))))canceled all auction,i was waiting on stuff i ordered and im screwed on them to now..they shut me down for default judgement))))cause i didn't answer there emails in 7 days.are they the law..aleast the law gives you an APEAL ebay dosn;t now the don't even answer any emails.i supose some one will nuke them some time. WHEN THEY CAN FIND THEM.
Like everyone else on here, I was suspended from eBay for NO reason!

This hasn't been the first time, or even second, third, fourth or fifth!

The only reason I keep going back is that like everyone else on here has sadly found, because of the monopoly that eBay has, there is NO other site, where regular people have a snowball's chance in hell of making even a little money.

I need help! I first started on ebay over two years ago. I started by selling items from around the house. Then I moved to selling items from dropship suppliers.

Then one day an item I'd listed (a stuffed animal) became damaged during the course of the auction. I immediately went on eBay to end the listing, but since someone had already bought it from my Buy it Now, I sent him a full refund. Then all of a sudden, my account was suspended, they said it was temporary and would only be for 14 days, but over 2 years later, I'd still not be able to get on.

So a relative doesn't EVER eBay, surf the Internet or even go online (except to check her email with her kids help) let me use her info to set up an free email account with free ISP, or Hotmail/Yahoo,etc.

But still within a short time that account was suspended. as have SEVERAL new accounts that I have created and maintained without any problems over the last couple years.

I am getting SO sick of having to hold my breath, each and every time I sign on to any of my accounts, worrying whether I'll have been suddenly cut off for no reason.

They just suspended me AGAIN today, for no reason! The current ID that they suspended had only 6 feedbacks because I'd only been able to have this account for a few days, and hadn't had a chance to complete any sales. But all the feedback was positive and my score was 100%. All told, with the feedback from all the accounts that have been suspended, I'd probably have had a score in the hundreds, with at least a 99% if not 100% rating!

I really need to get back on eBay! I was laid off from my job, and because I'm disabled and other circumstances, I've not been able to find another.

I have heard many, MANY good things about the site:

http://ebaysuspension.ezguidebooks.com

But I've wasted a LOT of money in the past on JUNK eBooks, that say to change your contact and financial info, clear your history and cache and other useless garbage that I've tried numerous times and DOESN'T WORK!

I need to make sure that this eBook will have USEFUL info.

Also PLEASE can someone HELP ME that can get this eBook for me until I can get some money and get back on my feet?

I am not exaggerating when I say I can not even afford the $29.95 for this eBook right now. I literally have no money.

I will repay you for this eBook after I get back on ebay and make some money!! I am not kidding when I say I need the income from ebay so desperately right now.

Can someone PLEASE help me?? If you can get this eBook for me, or help me out with money to get it, I'd be so eternally grateful!

Please email me at: kidultofthe80sand90s@juno.com

Or post a reply message on this board, as soon as possible, please, because I am DESPERATE, and I don't know what to do!

HELLO-
IM ANOTHER PISSED OFF BUYER. EBAY SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS.MY NAME WAS FARMER555COWS. ISPENT OVER $2000 ON EBAY, WITH IN TWO MONTHS! EVERY DAY EMAL FROM EBAY SELL PRODUCTS ALWAYS PUSHING ON THERE BEHALF SO THEY WOULD MAKE MONEY FROM ME! BECAUSE BUYING DOESNT MAKE THEM A RED CENTTTT. SO I COULDNT PAY FOR TWO ITEMS BECAUSE THRY SAY WE EXCEPT PAYPAL!!! AND THEY WERE BOTH THREW THIRD PARTYS LIKE -SOLD IT-! THEY WHEN I PUSHED PAY THREW PAY PAL, THEY WOULDNT EXCEPT AN ECHECK FROM PAYPAL OR A CHECK THE PEOPLE WERE VERY RUDE. I MADE OUT A COMPLAINT ALSO, FOUND THE NUMBER FOR EBAY BUT SENCE I WAS AN UNREGESTERED COUSTOMER I
COULDENT GET IN TO THERE SITE TO PROVE TO EBAY I COULDNT PAY AND I WASNT GOING TO PUT MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER ON LINE TO PAYFOR ANY THING. THEY WANTED PROOF. AND WOULDNT LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE I WASNT A SELLER. THEYSHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE SPACIFIC ON PAYPAL PAYING OPTIONS! AND I WILL DO ANY THING I CAN TO MAKE SURE TO TELL EVERY BODY IF YOU SPEND ALOT AND THEY CANT CON YOU INTO SELLING FOR THERE OWN PROFIT, THEY WILL WAIT FOR ANY LITTLE REASON TO SUSPEND YOU.
LINDA MAIR
Hello. I was suspended from ebay for being linked with another account. The other account was owned by someone who used to live in this house before I purchased it. IS THIS FOR REAL?? I contacted ebay after they suspended me and told them I think they are outta control that I have no link to this person & have heard nothing. They are basically accusing me of being someone I am NOT & doing something I did NOT> There has to be a name for that....and that CANNOT be legal for them to do. How do we put an end to this bulls**it? I am thinking of getting a lawyer & suing them for defammation of character. What do you guys think. Anyone in NJ up for a class action lawsuit against ebay? Time that they start treating people like human beings..and speaking of which..what is their so called motto"we at ebay believe that generally people are good" or some s*it?? Give me a break, email me if you wanna jump on the lawsuit wagon.
I believe Google has the model correct for the future in their classified listing service via Google Base which can be located at base.google.com. Ebay's run at the top without having to answer to their customers is nearing an end...the only way they have been growing in the past year is through international registration and company acquisitions to make it look as though revenue is increasing.


I have 2 M.B.A.s and I would never treat a customer the way eBays customer service treats theirs. It is poor relationship management coupled with a deleterious customer retention strategy. Then again, maybe they do not care about customer retention since they can goat others into becoming new registrants (although retention of a few percentage of customers can increase profits by as much as 100%). I do not think they will ever learn. However, if we continue to call them they may eventually get the message. (The story given is that they do not use phone support because of legal reasons as they can keep a paper trail of e-mails...that is a load of fly attractant since phone messages can be recorded with permission and are less likely to be tampered with). For good phone numbers to the site, go to the auction guild web site and you can find numbers for various departments, etc.

Here is the auction guild link http://auctionguild.com/generic17.html
Hi so I say screw ebay and their facist monopoly. Go to www.ioffer.com and list your items. They are free to list, free to have a store, and it is about time we stop bitching about ebay & start bringing business to a website that deserves it!!
Hi,
I too am suspended from ebay Australia for shill bidding.
I admit "yea" I did it, Im sure most people have.. (I only ever did it to bring prices up to break-even point). Turns out my wife was doing it too.. Ooops !!

We received the dreaded suspension email closing all 30 of my live auctions (some with over 20 bids). Not to mention the 15 items which are awaiting payment..

The email states to reply in 7 days for consideration of account reactivation.
I emailed straight away (couldnt wait 7 days !! I have thousands of $$$ of stock !!) I did get a reply within 24 hours saying that they wouldnt even look at our case until the 7 days are up...

OK. Its now 6 days, will email them again tomorrow and keep you posted.

My question is:
Is there anyone else who has been suspended from ebay Australia and have been reinstated ? Are they as bad as their US buddies ?
Please tell me they are not...


Cheers.
YOU ARE RIGHT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
THESE SOB S WHO OWN THIS COMPANY AND OTHER COMPANY ARE NOT ONLY EXTREMELY RICH THEY SUCK LIKE ADL SUCKS THEY DONT CARE ABOUT US.
After being unfairly suspended from Fee-bay several times - often mid-transaction (after I'd paid for items, but not gotten them - and never did) losing me an EXORBITANT amount of money, I've finally found a way to get some money, and get back at Greed-Bay, and Fee-Pal and exact some revenge!

THANK GOD for u!!! I was feeling like a criminal, begging every eBay dept. to please tell me why I was suspended, and I heard more excuses than a hooker going to jail. I even felt like a hooker going to jail! I kept begging them, please at least tell me why! Was it that I was about to move and had to change my address? Had I somehow infringed on someone else's copywrights? (I was selling some old books) I even suspected that, possibly my brother was mad at me because I was selling an old heirloom and maybe he wanted it! I'm teling you, I was getting paranoid! Most of the answers I got back were auto-mail that said to read the user's agreement, but one was that, because of their FRAUD DEPT they couldn't reveal the reason to me and to just send them all my info, (driver's license, ssn, address,new or old address, they wouldn't say, receipts for all the merchandise I was selling, some of which were given to me when I was a baby, and ----get this----photos of myself in each picture w/ each item! Well, I had no time for that, because I am moving soon, and I didn't want to have to go through all that and have it be too late---Lots of the stuff I was selling was because I didn't want the hassle and expense of moving it all! But, like an idiot, I just decided to take my chances. Had all the pics done...oh yes,I forgot! a current utility bill and credit card bill with my name and address on it which had to match my driver's license address, etc. etc. Again--which address they wouldn't say--Well, I did it, but I haven't sent them off. 'cuz I was just about to when I saw your blog. Excuse me for now...I think I'll make a few calls unless the Feds drop by first to confiscate my old books. GOD BLESS YOU! LUANNE PORTER SLEEEK7@AOL.COM
Wow, Luanne, their demands on you are crazy! Good luck.
good luck we are dealing with them an have been talking to eveyone an they all have diff answers. which isnt helping just passing the buck only. plus the sell on ebay we bought from is a scam pro. this women knows how to work it. she has all down. plus she claims she such a sell that her feed backs say it all for her. ya but do some digging. an you will find there a lot thats not shown. an theres the same old story about everyone an how everyone is not right an she is. an how people is just trying to make her look bad befor they check everything out befor they leave their feed backs. all i can say is ebay , the sellers, an pay pal or all in this together. ebay post it for the seller the seller has you use pay pal. ok ebay gets their money the seller gets their an pay pal gets theirs everyone is happy but the buyer when it comes to a problem an then they put you off . an dont do anything about it. then ebay says your suspended from here. for what being honest, being a true american, an not a scam artist. an getting awy with by the laws of justice. this is the american way i guess now is to screw you any way they can for a buck. think about it everyone, its true. this how they are working. any company would stand behind their name an get these yoyos off there an suspend them for ever selling another item on ebay. this how the true american people work together. im not sure if a person can list names on here. but the people i have spoke with on ebay i would love to list all their names. plus the seller she the one that really needs her name on here an many other places. i relly never knew the all mighty dollar ment that much to screw people an scam them an be proud of it an keep on selling like your the queen an king of ebay
Heres my follow-up.
OK. We were suspended from Ebay Aus for shill bidding, got the 7 day suspension email.
- Emailed after 7 days asking to be reinstated.
- Receieved response on day 8 asking us to read and agree to all policies in a replying email which we did.
- Received an email on day 10. Account is back..

Im not sure if we were lucky or if Ebay Aus is a bit better to deal with than its US buddies but they were reasonable to deal with.

Off course a warning email would have been nicer, rather than shooting first, then asking questions while your laying bleeding for 7 days !

Back in action
(Sorry to those who are still going in circles)
I went to the bank today. It was overdrawn $649, due to E-bay. I put some items on auction. It's only my second time. I was double charged, and incorrectly charged. My bank says to deal with E-bay, but I still have to pay the fees or my account will be closed. I'm so angry at taking a chance on E-bay. I will never do it again. Their "Live Chat" is not working. What a surprise. I sent a "dispute" for a full refund. I'm not counting on them to come through, but if they do, then I will let you know. Yes, it's a scam. I've just been raped due to my stupidity. I'll let everyone I know, know that E-bay can't be trusted.
hello everyone EBAY sucks Butt. But i found a good online Auction just like Ebay The online auction that lets you list as many items as you want for only eight dollars per month. http://www.onlineauction.com/
ebay and paypal are the biggest bunch of Fxxkers i have ever seen. ex power seller with nearly 2000 feedback and 4 negs. indefinitely suspended me for useing someones small description on one of my listings. it was ok for other sellers to use my photos and description. i never use to say anything. please god let there be another auction site in the future to crush these ebay maggots.
Here is one for you about Ebay. I had trouble with aseller bad mouthing me in her auction so reported it. I got a response from "Elizibeth"(her spelling of her name) saying they could not do anything about an "email" outside of ebay. Excuse me? Who said email? It was an AUCTION!!! So i wrote her back --- if you had read my complaint you would have seen it was an auction not an email --- I want a job like you have --- you do nothing! Got suspended for telling her the truth. She suspended all my IDs --- some for selling and some for buying. One ID had zero feedbacks and it was suspended for "repeat violation" --- again excuse me? Zero feedbacks and it did something? Its never been used -- never bid on a single thing or sold a single thing and a repeat offence? How can that be? Elizibeth is behind my suspendtion. Customer Service Elizibeth and the bad thing is Ebay LIVE HELP sent me to her through a link they gave me when I went to them for help. BUT my email from them said --- I contacted a person after an auction. Now how many do that? All my friends do it. I did contact a gal after an auction --- didn't say anything bad -- just asked if she was going to put any more up for auction. Then we got to talking outside of ebay --- but I never bought anything from her.ELIZIBETH picked on my auction history until she found a violation she could use to get me out of ebay becuase I hurt her feeling or made her mad. Long story short --- I was a seller for over 5 years with 100% positive feedbacks --- no warning --- just suspended indefinatley and no matter what I say they won't reinstae it. You'd think I was a ax murderer! I look forward to another auction site. Luckily I focused on my own web site and it has been doing great and I did not realize how much time I was putting into listing and pictures and shipping on ebay. Unbelievable how much more time I have now but I still have the bad taste in my mouth from Elizibeth and her vendetta to ruin me for telling her she was NOT DOING HER JOB!!! Where is HER BOSS??? How come she is getting away with this? Who runs ebay? Maybe they need to give out some tests to the people they hire and not take things so personal and hold a grudge when they are called upon to explain THEIR MISTAKES. I have all the letters to prove this story is correct. So I am suspended forever for contacting someone after an auction has ended and all the shill bidders, slow paying, slow shippers, NO shippers etc get beck in. How does that figure out to be correct? Gods watching us all :o) How ashamed ebay should be. ID was KOPIEKATS
Reading these messages..besides the spammer that is..
MAKES me feel..OH MY..I have been there and got that shirt till it stinks!
I have to tell you...I spoke with my lawyer about ebay...and I do still sell there...He said they all refer to them as a bunch of communists..absolutely NO FREEDOM of speech...They have a rule for everything...but not in one place...
I actually thought about contacting GATES to distroy and rebuild...They all have stock in the dump cump...
Maybe BUSHIE baby...I was told its a forum and noone can touch it...
you just have to live next door and have all your relatives working there to get a fair shot...Otherwise you are nothing but a dollar to them...Maybe its a religios cult..who knowa?? Let me know..
OH!!! and one more thing... I used to get good reponses from..
csme@ebay.com
Not lately but used to...email this link to them
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